Breeding to a steroid champ...????

Surely you're not saying you give 'roids on a daily basis. I'm sure you give them when you personally feel the need and in isolated instances. Therefore, they are "supplementation" to your norm. Therefore a supplement.

Man made has nothing much to do with supplementation. If something is given at times other than the norm, it's supplementation. Repository testosterone isn't man made. It's processed and refined, yes, but not man made. So, are we to say repository testosterone is a supplement yet winstrol and equipoise are not? Based on your man made or not theory, we would have to. It's all semantics. Whether they work or not, how they work, and when to use them (and how) are of no consequence.

 

Dam, you keep arguing as to whether they work or not. No one is debating that with you. LOL

 

I thought this post would have played out by now. Guess not.


Here are some facts. Steroids are just another supplement. Plain and simple. What they do and how they are used may be slightly more difficult to nail down than other supplements, but, supplements still the same.


There is no steroid on the planet that increases strength, speed, agility, etc..etc.. Absolutely none. If it were I would eat a five gallon bucket of _________ (fill in the blank with your preference of steroids) and look like the hulk, hit a ball like Bonds, bench like Arcedi, spint like Johnson, and never have to get out of this recliner.


They have to be coupled with work. They themselves do not build anything. It is the work. They allow you to recover faster and do more work, thus the gains. It is from the work not the steroids.


Steroids and dogs is a moot point. One very few people use steroids on their dogs and of those few people, very few of them actually know what they are doing. So seldom is it ever a difference maker in the dogs. And back to the original poster's question, even to the very few that use them successfully, it has no impact on whether someone should or should not breed to a dog.


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Moot is right, Slim. And your post was excellent and on the dime. I've posted very similar facts more than once myself. So have Saiy and others.

The OQ however, is if you would breed to one that had been given 'roids. Dam, you STILL are arguing as to whether they work or not while no one else is debating that aspect of steroid use.

Perhaps we can get back to the subject question of the thread.

 

Yeah, and when yo mama smile it look like lol. C'mon with this shit.

 

Dam, what might it take for you to realize that no one is arguing that point with you?

 

"I can explain it to you...but I can't understand it for you".....this speaks volumes.


I will go slow. I mean s-----l-----o-----w.


Will steroids help a dog to be in better condition? Yes. Absolutely. No doubts.


Must they be used correctly? Yes. Absolutely. No doubts.


Is there people out there that really know and understand how to use them on a performing canine? Yes. Absolutely. No doubts.


now the flip side....


Is there a lot of people that actually use steroids on performing canines? No. Absolutely not.


Is the percentage of people that do use them successfully very high? No. Absolutely not.


Will steroids alter the way a dog will produce? This is the only topic in this entire thread that has two answers. First, NO!, it will not make a dog produce any differently than he would had he competed naturally.
YES!, Steroids used incorrectly, wrong dosages, mis-timed cycles can lead to medical issues in the male reproductive system, meaning he may not produce anything at all.


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