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Bite or Gameness? Small head/Big head

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Sleep, Apr 9, 2020.

  1. che

    che Top Dog

    It must be i am saying dog need to be conditioned but you cant change Some abilitys.
     

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  2. che

    che Top Dog

    Again stamina strength gameness are all genetic. Some have natural strength gameness and stamina. How many dogs we know from past. He was a strong had a bite amd

    This is what i try to tell all the time but my Words dont reach the everyone
     
  3. che

    che Top Dog

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  4. che

    che Top Dog

    9863C019-DC3C-4D3C-9E5F-B2D0FD9F90A4.jpeg @Sleep

    Why did you liked Stickler’s post? Are you little bit confused?
     
  5. Sleep

    Sleep Big Dog

    Not confused at all i understand the nature winded dog part...not box ready but winded....naturally....I just try to take what I feel is correct and bank it and the bs I take it with a grain of salt and keep it moving....we will never master the ins and outs of the gamedogs..and that's what all keeps us hungry and motivated and the love of the breed..always tryna improve the breed is all of our main goal...well should be anyway...many ways to get the finish line no matter what we think will win the race....many obstacles to face...many variables...its just who adapts to the circumstances faster and equipped with the right training to overcome them
     
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  6. che

    che Top Dog

    One more time nobody said that.
     
  7. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    I reckon I wasted a lot of time and money on education. I should have just read everything here... Too bad I rely on scientific research and facts. The eyes are not always correct.
     
  8. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    Just don’t get it do ya
     
  9. reddirt redneck

    reddirt redneck Big Dog

    Yes , YOU did!!! You claim it’s born and doesn’t need development. I may not know as much on dogs as some. However, I do know genetics and biomechanics very well. It was compared to boxers. I dare say seeing as I have been on the bigger scenes in Boxing, I may have a clue on what needs and doesn’t need development ✌️ Out because you sir are the only person here not reading to understand. Just to respond. With all due respect, I’m sure you speak just to hear yourself as well.
     
  10. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    All this shit goes out the window because a lot of them come down to who can hide the cur the longest lmfao
     
  11. che

    che Top Dog

    I did never say that U understand that way and i am sure you know that . Not problem
    If u dont want to accept it. Pls read good. Stamina is not only putting air in the dog.
    I said multiple times Strength, Stamina, Air, Gameness are geneticly. Thats why Some off the dogs bloodlines or famillys in a line known for Some off this traits .Some are known for their bite strength and less gameness. Some are known in general for winded body, stamania and gameness and average bite. Some off them are known for their agility. I can keep going on more traits.. i dont never said this dogs dont need a keep. Everydog that gonna compete in a legit show need to be conditioned. I did just say onece again . Stamania is first 1 ability to sustain physical effort. Ssecond stamina is ability to sustain mentall effort. We know from past history and experience over years. You can improve the first one by conditioning the body . Thats stamina ability to sustain physical effort. If the dog is capabel , there is always a limit. One have more capacity and limit than other . This is also same by strength. Also you can improve his strength with right training. But also Some have more limit so can have more power sustainable. Now Lets go to the stamina mentall effort. This is the hard one. Because history showed Some dogs were pyhsical very strong but they were mentall weak dogs. Some off this were great conditioned but they couldnt handle the pain and stress .Some off them are still showed game and their stamina physical effort was prepared pretty good but at stamina mentall effort ability niveau they were weak so they gave up faster they started to behave different they fighted weird from
    The moment they started getting more frustrated , u can say hey that one Will stop but at scratch this dogs were like roket but when they reached the opponent they started not fighting back while the Other dog with same strength And same fight quality with better stamina mentall effort win over this dog.

    It may also allow him to go longer than the other and the other dog curs or gets stopped before his cur comes to the top.

    I didnt said nothing differents than @stickler said. I just was using Google translatie because i am not speaking well english but God thanks there were Some who did understand me. By this post i dont use Google translator i let a frend off mine write he is writing more clear

    By the way i normally say Every dog shows their gameness at different level. While a one shows signs to getting pick up just he is getting faster frustrated other one in same circumstances is still keep going. Both dogs are game. One is more mentall stamina sustainable other one less mental stamina sustainable. One Get faster frustrated other one not that fast. Frustration have bad effect at their fighting styl skills

    Pls i am not here to attack any one with
    My Words . We share our thoughts and experience after seeing it al.
     
  12. che

    che Top Dog

    You can't conditioning gameness into a dog, but you can make him 'longer game' with conditioning.Same with stamina MEntal effort conditioning will help in that matter, but stamina mental effort just like gameness is genetics and stands on his own.
    gameness and natural born stamina mental efforr will be still there, no matter how the work is done.
     
  13. che

    che Top Dog


    you are right about this. It is just a discussion about a term trait stamina mentall effort.
    If its come to that point that the dog Will quit. Cur is cur. But you see that when its happend. You dont gonna hide him but cull him. Saying this Every dog Will quit if you set out to see it, by Some it takes longer than others. I think it would be most honest to say that i keep dogs that havent quit yet in any circumstances. I cant hide a one and cant use in my program
     
  14. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    The level of competition plays also a factor in how to rate any athlete. About this breed of dogs, a cur have more gameness in his toenail then the biggest and strongest man of the block in his entire body. Last was told to me by one of the biggest and strongest man in the game of days long gone by, think there is a lot of truth in that.
     
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  15. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    He told you a crock of shit. Plenty of men/women have proven dg.
     
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  16. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    LOL Ben i know that as a fact but I guess you miss the point of what the man was telling.BTW that bloke have a fair better reputation than any on here,that said as every assshole out there we all are entitled to our opinion.
     
  17. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Our own opinion better said.
     
  18. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Bro you would be surprised of the caliber of some of the folks on this forum past and present.
     
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  19. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    I know most of them Ben, and nothing in this world van surprise me anymore
     
  20. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    No truer words have been spoken.

    It is fun to talk about gameness and conditioning and breeding and all the things that go into winners.

    Then the next conversation is 'most believe they will all quit at some point'.

    So if the traits we are looking for are elusive indeed, (meaning more times than not they are not there) and couple that with 'most believe they will all quit at some point'.....then....

    the best laid plan is for me to hide my cur longer than you can hide your cur.

    The person that hides the best wins the most.

    After a hundred years I may finally be catching on.

    S




     
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