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Alligator/Alligator Crosses

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by YoungLion, Dec 23, 2005.

  1. mistabonz

    mistabonz Premium Member Premium Member

    Gilligan you asked me "what dogs" and I replied via a private message. Did you receive that message.?
     
  2. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Yes gringo that is what I want them to see everyone thinks just because the see kershner on the ped it is no good but the dogs her show me the family I breed for and that is winners. Now when everyone looks at spookie and the alligator dogs and think its not the same as Asia but trust me I have seen better dogs out of Asia than any out of nigerino. But that's me. Dogs like Scorpio , Anna , acea, wether bee, swig, Demon, is-not them digs off Scorpio were very good alligator cross dogs but always overlooked buy the name that comes before there name. We can say even king Minos , brandy Starr, miko, king midis, chase, all good alligator cross dogs and would be in more peds if the name kershner wasn't on the ped all good dogs comming from a untested family. ?????
     
  3. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Yes I sent u back a pm didnt I? If not I will tell u I dont like that dog because as I look at his offspring the family just isn't there ya he shows to be better on papper and that's only because unlike his brother and sisters half and full were not bred out of there family there for throwing a weaker but better dog it sounds crazy but it's like a concrete it's a powder until u add water and let it harden so ya when they were bred back to there family the are like I call them ready mix just add a Lil out and there u go voila magic. A dog that looks to be a better producer than the one being bred back the the family. I hope u understand what I mean.
     
  4. mistabonz

    mistabonz Premium Member Premium Member

    No you never sent me back a pm
     
  5. Gillagan, don't forget that Brandy Star was shown by the greek and she proved to be DG, same as Acea.

    My favorites back then were the littermates Puckles and Hacken.

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=53147

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    *I remember posting up those peds,,, I can't believe it's been over 8 years.....
    When you look at those, do you start to feel as old as I do? lol
     
  6. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Yes i have dogs off them only 3 gen in on them but it seams like forever.
     
  7. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    If u can gringo post pic of Anna and acea I am not were I can post pic for a few days at least not on here
     
  8. Gillagan I'm sorry but I can't find any pics of either Annie or Acea for some reason. I think I may have lost them, but I did find a pic of their parents Scorpio and Treason.


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    *Puckles was never bred as far as I know, did you get one of the pups off Hacken and Single-Not? I asked Rod to breed her to Miko and he did but she never stuck... :(
     
  9. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Yes bandit it off miko x hacken, and yes I have a bitch he claimed was off single not to haken but she don't show me that. I will send a pic to ur email. But with that said I had a few dogs down off bandet shit I even had bandit and at the time he was low same as but not and old ass but not showed to be the better dog of the two so I let bandit go and he ended up with the man that has him now.
    Dut as the sons and daughters I looked at out of bandet showed like miko ruff gut and dogs hard strong dogs but lack the mouth to hurt. They also had would get frustrated when a dog would get in there face and slow down there pace I looked at 9 of them into 3 bitches all showed the same telling me bandit was the one throwing this traits.the best I seen was out of foxxy
     
  10. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Gringo we just named 10 or more dogs that were game dogs some dead game dogs from crosses off the brasken x alligator dogs. This was all from one family into another and bred in on. Most of the dogs that are talked about from the other family's are three or more family's all crossed out and bred to many different family's of dogs and they didn't show to throw as good but all of this don't matter because the dogs have kershner before there name. That's crazy to me. Now they will take a dog that had to be crossed out to 5 of more family's just so it can produce a few good dogs. This is a understanding I don't understand .
     
  11. bobbycoxx

    bobbycoxx Big Dog

    I have said it many times. Just cause you see kershner name on it or in it dont assume that the dog is of poor quailty. Cause u may miss out on something. They all weren't dogs of poor quailty. I have seen some with my own eyes..Some where better than others. Its just up to you to know what to handle.
     
  12. bobbycoxx

    bobbycoxx Big Dog

    I use it all.... Depending on what i am looking for.. Mayfield, Alligator, Kershner, whatever.....People say what you will.. But like Cena.. You don't wanna see me.
     
  13. bobbycoxx

    bobbycoxx Big Dog

    Oh yeah... And of course gots to put some Uga in it if need be...
     
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  14. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Gringo do you have a pic of chi town
     
  15. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    Wish my old hard drive wasn't in storage, im sure I had a couple pics of Chi

    NGK
     
  16. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Well Ngk when u ever get them it would be nice to see. The way this thread is going it will be hear for years to come.
     
  17. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    I hear ya and will see what I can do.

    NGK
     
  18. Bojangles

    Bojangles Premium Member Premium Member

    Alligator/Tonka/Red Baron
    Alligator/Chinaman/Spike
    Alligator/Busenbark
    Alligator/Sorrell
    Alligator/Carver(LG)
    Alligator/Jeep/RBJ

    Ain't to many ways they haven't crossed well. Them have better bottom end and Wind than they'll get credit for. Atleast that's why I wanted the touch I got, mainly wind.
     
  19. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

  20. Bojangles

    Bojangles Premium Member Premium Member

    Thats very nice. I was speaking of Bert Sorrells not Rick but on a different topic have been looking for the Duhon bred dogs from his stock. Great stuff
     

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