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A Tragic Loss In These Dogs

Discussion in 'R.I.P.' started by TabDogs, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. Attila

    Attila Guest

    the worst offenders are those with white shirts black pants and a black tie, and sales people. Neither of which get the red carpet welcome. I will tolerate a sales man or woman more than the other. At least I can mess with the sales folk with out having the urge to cut the male Shar-pei loose on them. Usually that is. I like it when they ask that they hope they are not disturbing me. And when I tell them I feel so sorry that they are illiterate. Beings that they couldn't read the warning signs that would lead to their eventual death. I love to tell them to wait right there while I go turn the fire up on the stove because I hadn't had fresh kill in weeks. They never seem to stay unless of course they are the first bunch because they are really stupid. Any body else is just stupid.
  2. maryellen1

    maryellen1 Guest

    if the TX humane society that takes them feels they are fighting dogs, they will NOT be adopted out to the public.. i highly doubt any of the adults will make it out of there.. let alone the pups.... fighting dogs do not make it out of any humane center, whether they were fought or not, if they look like they could have or did they are euthed.
  3. Attila

    Attila Guest

    I suppose they would think the same about coon hounds, Boar hounds, bear hounds etc. Lord only knows what they would have thought about my coon and bear hounds. It is stupid. These people need to mind their own damn business. They wouldn't know a fighting dog if it was in their back pocket. What is it to them. They are messed up. Animals don't have rights. People do. These organizations look at dogs and cats as people. If I raised dogs and ate them it still isn't any of their business. To me that is gross but some people eat dog and cat. They don't see it the same way I am sure. Or I hope anyway. You can make a pet out of a chicken, I would eat it and never think twice about it. I grew up on a farm and I still own one today. My perimeter dogs get into it with coyotes, wild dogs, bobcats, coon, and so on. If they said my dogs looked like they had faught. They would be right. But not with eachother. And it isn't their damn business anyway. I am getting very sick of these so called animal protective services doing what the hell they please to other folks. If let go long enough we all will have problems with these jack asses. Time to start kicking their feet out from under them and re gain control of our lives and our animals. Next thing you know we will all be stuck eating tofu and veggie crap.
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  4. maryellen1

    maryellen1 Guest

    its sad, but they go by what peta says and the humane society. they are all so ignorant. if i have to give up a nice juicy steak for tofu no way no how.. i like my meat..
  5. Attila

    Attila Guest

    I love it when you talk like that. lol Now I am craving steak.
  6. maryellen1

    maryellen1 Guest

    mmmm hot juicy red steak.... moist chicken open flame... pork loin dripping with juices and seasonings....
  7. cheekymunkee

    cheekymunkee Top Dog

    That is true

    I am the one who said that Houston Humane Society does not adopt out pit bulls. If I am mistaken I am very sorry. I was always under the impression that they did not. Did they have a policy shange recently? In any event, sorry for the mis-information. I do hope they find the people who did this. No matter what, no one deserves to die in front of their family like this, and certainly no one deserves to bleed to death slowly.
  8. SAM_I_AM

    SAM_I_AM Big Dog

    Except the ones who did this.....
  9. jeeperino

    jeeperino CH Dog

    AM, Its not like I have a sign out front that says PUBLIC WELCOME and I dont sell dogs either. I try (tried) to be an ambassador to the breed and let SOME people look at my dogs. For example...One of my sons friends Mothers drops her kid off at my house and hears dogs barking, sees some dogs, then they have questions. I would GLADLY let her meet some of my dogs to see that they were friendly to ALL and were not a harm to her child playing at my house. I did this for a number of reasons, mainly to squash gossip about me havein "fighting" dogs or baby killers around town. I would always show them some unmarked dogs kept up front that were friendly. That is about the extent of my public display. I have also had people just pull in my driveway and want to buy a pup or dog without knowing a thing about me or my dogs. I simply say none for sale, thank you. The Presas up front are usually a good way to get my point across. But then people ask what kind of pitbull they are, I tell them they arent and leave it at that. Anyway, in a small town area people talk as we all know and I want (wanted) all the good press I could get. Gotta do what you can to turn down the heat or prevent any heat at all.

    If I lived by myself it would be a diff story. But I dont, I have a wife and school age children that need to lead normal lives and not be shunned because I own APBT's.

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  10. Attila

    Attila Guest

    Ouch that hurt. Normal lives and not be shunned. Ok.

    I low populated area. Some dogs can be used for public relations. I guess I am abnormal lived and shunned. Sigh**



    Talk to me baby. You have my attention now.
  11. maryellen1

    maryellen1 Guest

    hahaha.... i just picked up at the butcher a beautiful juicy thick red skirt steak, a beautiful rib eye steak dripping with red juices, sweet sausage, flounder stuffed with crabmeat, salmon stuffed, beautiful fresh cut center pork chops... all from the local farms up here.... tender, juicy, melt in your mouth meats..... and the best part, all for $46!!!! the guy undercharged me.... it was very very sweet indeed!!!
  12. Attila

    Attila Guest

    ahhh now all we need is a cigarette lol. I don't smoke though.
  13. Marty

    Marty Banned

    New news...
    Investigators on Tuesday collected and took pictures of dog-fighting equipment that will be used as evidence during a Monday court hearing to determine the fate of more than 300 pit bull terriers seized in Liberty County this week.

    Liberty County Precinct 5 Justice of the Peace Burl Thomas will decide who will get custody of the dogs after their removal from a large-scale breeding operation because of alleged unhealthy living conditions and cruel treatment.

    'We're seeking to have them placed with the Houston Humane Society," said Sgt. Mark Timmers, an animal cruelty investigator with the organization and the Harris County Precinct 6 Constable Office. Timmers said the dog-fighting evidence included a treadmill and water swimming tank, both used to build an animal's strength and endurance.

    The evidence will be presented during the hearing to show the pit bulls were being trained for fighting and were subjected to cruel conditions, he said.

    Liberty County Sheriff, Harris County Precinct 6 constable and Houston Humane Society officials also collected the remaining 35 to 40 dogs from the property in the 2200 block of County Road 2252, east of Cleveland.

    Investigators spent most of Monday on the secluded 15- to 20-acre property, freeing the dogs from filthy wood pens and a muddy, snake-infested field where many were staked to the ground. The dogs have been taken to the Houston Humane Society where they will remain until the hearing.

    Sheriff's officials discovered the breeding operation while responding to a home invasion at the property last week.

    The homeowner, Thomas Weigner Jr., 27, was shot and killed during the 3 a.m. home invasion Aug. 1. Police think the motive was robbery.

    Investigators said they think Weigner was breeding and training the pit bulls for dog fighting and had a breeding operation in Pennsylvania before moving to Texas a couple of years ago. Based on the number and quality of the dogs found in Liberty County, police estimated their value at $1 million.

    Dog fighting is illegal in all 50 states, but there are no laws regulating the breeding of fighting dogs.

    Because Weigner is dead, investigators must wait to see who will appear in court to claim ownership of the animals.

    Timmers said Weigner's wife and children, who were bound with duct tape during the home invasion, were in Pennsylvania Tuesday. The family held Weigner's funeral services there, police said.

    Weigner's wife was uncooperative and gave police little information about the dog operation, Timmers said.

    Weigner's father also had little to say when contacted by telephone Tuesday. "I haven't seen or heard from my son in 27 years and that's all I know," said Thomas Weigner of Pittsburgh.

    If someone claims ownership of the dogs during the hearing, the person could face criminal charges filed by the Liberty County Sheriff's Office, Timmers said.

    If no one comes forward, including Weigner's wife or family, then the dogs likely will be turned over to a nonprofit animal agency. Timmers said Weigner's wife still could face charges because police think she participated in the operation.

    Under Texas law, animal cruelty is a misdemeanor punishable by a year in jail or up to a $4,000 fine or both. However, a 2001 law allows a person convicted of animal cruelty and torture to be charged with a felony, punishable by two years in jail and up to a $10,000 fine or both.

    renee.lee@chron.com rosanna.ruiz@chron.com

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  14. Bullyboi

    Bullyboi CH Dog

    these people are damn idiots!
  15. Marty

    Marty Banned

    Took the words right out of my mouth :(
  16. brindle

    brindle Big Dog

    They had no reason to take those dogs and if it had been any other breed, they would not have taken them. But pit bulls are big news and they can get their 10 mins of fame for "we took 300 pit bulls.."

    It is BS. It is wrong and I bet it is illegal too. If his wife were tougher and got a lawyer, she could fight for those dogs. They are considered valuable property and she could sell the dogs and get money to start her life over instead of having these dogs die at the hands of the SPCA.

    The dogs were not ill kept. There was yard help hired to take care of them. That was one of the best maintained large yards in existence. It is much healthier for a bulldog to be on a chain with a dog house than shut in some small inside cage in an over crowded dirty shelter. Or kept in a crate 23 hrs of 24 hrs as some show people do.

    There was no proof of dog fighting nor any legal reason to take the dogs. They are grasping at straws with a "swimming tank and a treadmill". Other breeds are conditioned on a treadmill and they even sell treadmills at the big AKC shows. But say the words "pit bull" and it is automatically "dog fighting" equipment even though many other breeds are conditioned on a treadmill.

    They could have left the dogs there on the property. Those were fine dogs and this is another black mark for the breed. They will concentrate on the dogs and let the killers go, I bet they won't even look for them. They have a better story with "300 pit bulls taken"...
  17. Attila

    Attila Guest

    Now they want to charge her too. What is next the kids. Charge them and his dad. What a bunch of fargging idiots. I have flush turds smarter and more ethical than these butt sniffs. It is a sad sad world we live in now.
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  18. simms

    simms CH Dog

    This case makes me want to puke!

    You ought to read what folks are saying on other boards....

    For those of you that are breathing a sigh of relief on this in favor of these dogs.....You dont derseve the dogs you own! In the end,when these gastopos come knockin for your dogs....dont be lookin for empathy.
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  19. Attila

    Attila Guest

    I hear you. I just prepare for another war. Might as well.
  20. cheekymunkee

    cheekymunkee Top Dog

    I HAVE read on another board & it makes me sick. People disgust me. No matter WHAT you think of the man, his practices or the amount of dogs he had he did not deserve to die like that and his kids did not deserve to watch. Horrifying is what it is.

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