A Cold Dog

I'm just referring to tight bread cold gyps. No way I'm feading ANY male past three! I had so many people give me grief about putting down that Tobe & Rose male, they tell me you could give him to me! The man who really owned him said put him down. We have A couple of good ones from that breeding!

 

I can accept the term unstarted. But it don't bother me to label a dog a cur it is what it is and it aint that Bigga deal. Stop taking dog label personally. If cold make u feel better then say cold don't matter. Cause if I call your "cold" dog a cur u can't bring it to the dance and prove otherwise. Mind as well be a cur then

 

Here is a question, I hope you will respond.
Definition of breeding program, what is that, how you decided which animals will be mated?

Several entries.
Zebo x Honeybunch
Bo x Honeybunch
Frisco x lot of bitches
Dibo x lot of bitches
Chinaman x some bitches
Red Boy x some bitches

Does anyone understand what I mean??

 

If you had a game bitch from same litter why would you need to? I've seen people breed young gyps that haven't been looked at really for different reasons and to me that is still different than breeding a dog that you know has no desire for the action. Everyone talks about the success' of breed cold and cur dogs, but those are exceptions not the rule. I'd bet my last dollar to a bucket of Shit that there are way more cur and cold dogs that produced cur and cold dogs than winners.....

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OK your right. No argument from me and not trying to convince anybody!

 

Just tried to share A little something I picked up, about tight bread unstarted, cold gyps! Hay there your yours do what ever you want! I'm not trying to convince anybody, they don't star at 18 mos. smoke them!

 

I understand what you are saying all I'm saying is I'd bet that more of those type Breedings didn't work than those that did. I'll give one more than 18 months, but not 5 years. Another thing that mystifies me if the fact that it's accepted to breed cold bitches but cold males are shunned, I've heard the whole my daddy taught me how to fight not my mama theory. But in the end I don't care what another does with their dogs, I'm just trying to see what different peoples opinions are.

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OK one more time like A real tight breading where the males showed OK, the gyp is cold or wont start which ever, you outcross, create A hybreed (hopefully combat dogs nothing is written in stone) why not A male because you want to take her to A great stud that fits as good as possible! Like I said if we all thought the same way every match would be A stale mate. Your right do it the way you said. I'm not big on matching gyps, that's just me. What I was told once you get breedings so tight gyps are unpredictable,

 

I understand completely what you are saying. But I would rather not breed them tight to the point their only worth being brood stock. Never been big into matching the gyps either, looking at them thoroughly though is a habit. I understand what your saying but the reason I keep asking more questions is to point out the inconsistencies. If a cold bitch can produce so can a cold male. If a cold male shouldn't be bred, why breed a cold bitch. I'm not speaking directly to your responses, moreso in general. Trying to get a dialogue going as to why the different theories can about. I mean does anyone feel that cold bitches can produce but a cold male can't? Is the sire more important than the dam?

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Certainly every one I have breed, since the first brood bitches have been tested hard. The days of the 20-30 dog yards are over at least for me. Now I have A couple I'm look'n at real hard, I understand why people don't breed brood stock, even if everything looks good you could still be looking at underlying health issues. A lot of those oldtimers did raise just brood stock not me. I was given mine.

 

I totally agree with Naus on this one. A cold dog is neither game nor a cur , it is basically a dog that NEVER starts. Although there have been some dogs labled as cold early in there life only to start up later in life hence the term LATE STARTERS.

 

I think a lot depends on the bloodline, the siblings, the parents, and your beliefs...

Why breed a cold bitch and not a cold male... because there are a lot more worthy studs, than their are worthy bitches...imho

I wouldn't breed a cold bitch, from a cur/mediocre litter. Now if the bitch is from an above average litter. I would take a chance with her.(if I didn't have excess to her better littermate sisters)

Just like I would put down a 15/30 min cur, that quit on top. (even if the rest of the litter was game)
Now I would breed a 2-3xer, that quit in 2hrs on it's last... (given I had seen some gameness, during 3-4 outings)

I still think you have to be some kind of game... to just stand there and take knockout blows, and do nothing...

 

Never wasted time on cold dogs.
Too much of any thing is a bad thing but too much cold = more curs.

 

With as many good dogs out here now days I think it would be stupid to breed to a cold dog/cur.. I see people selling proven dogs to just about anybody all over social media..it would be a step backward in both aspects of the game

 

I don't know what most people think the term game means but to me it means having the will to overcome high levels of pain to accomplish the task at hand......a cold dog you just can't hurt them enough to start them lmao they are dead game dogs that's alive

 

Really? Cold dead game dogs, what task are they accomplishing?

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Once again This is in reply to naustroms analogy

 

So what do you call the type of person, that stands up for their beliefs, taken all kinds of abuse, beatings etc. and they never fight back?

 

Cmon frank are you saying a cold dog is a dead game dog thats alive????? WOW Did I read that right or is my eyes deceiving me???? LMAO

 

Send me that old cold art/lil java gyp if you still got her, trot. I'll take her off your hands.