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Inbreeding is for fools and old men.

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by ben brockton, Jun 23, 2022.

  1. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    I can assure you that 99.9% of the most well-known guys in the history of these dogs couldn't tell the difference between Howie Mandell and Mandell theory. But they sure as fuck knew how to make a bulldog.
     
  2. Inbreeding is defined as mating between individuals that are related by ancestry and is more likely in populations that are, or have been, small.


    I believe most will see inbreeding and believe it means just brother/sister dad to daughter and mother to son but it's a bit more and so if we open his pedigrees We see He actually did, more often then most know probably more then he knew as it seems a lot them and now don't see it deeper but it Genetics We should.
    Maybe it's the Science but Whatever he thought he was doing He did a Great Job. Seems a few still do and don't mind keeping em Family.
     
  3. Revelator

    Revelator Big Dog

    So much truth in this statement. The link is to a dog we bought off Tom Ratliff back in '99, and he got him from a guy named Tristiani, a doctor I believe, I think out of Puerto Rico? Anyways, Padresito was HEAVY Jeep inbreeding, looked the spitting image of Jeep. But was absolutely useless! We tried a few times to start him, he just never would turn on. Rat snapping every time, so bad we worried he would end up knocking the other dogs eyes out so after a while we gave up. But with that pedigree, we thought for sure he would throw something, so we tried breeding him, again, multiple times, but he wanted nothing to do with it. He didn't even get excited in the least. One night we decided to leave him in the pen with a female who was flagging like crazy. Go out the next morning, this crazy fool wanted away from the coochie so bad that he chewed his way out of the chain link fence and into the next pen over After much time wasted, that was the end of Padresito, back to North Carolina he went!

    https://dogs.pedigreeonline.com/ratliffs-padresito-CsatIGFM/pedigree
     
  4. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Bred too tight.
     
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  5. Revelator

    Revelator Big Dog

    Insanely tight. And I kind of knew that going in, but thought a good outcross would possibly make for something special. Never thought he was skinny jeans tight and most likely Elton John gay
     
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  6. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

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  7. Revelator

    Revelator Big Dog

    I wish that would give a d.o.b. for the offspring. I see Padresito had 4 pups, so somebody must've been better at breeding him than we were, lol. Maybe his first piece ruined him for any future ladies Looks like his littermates did much better.
     
  8. Piter2006

    Piter2006 Pup

    Pure JEEP dogs Nice.
    This Blood Still breeding Today?
     
  9. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [225966] :: US 1 OSCAR AKA SLEEPY JAMES (online-pedigrees.com)

    Some lines do not stack well. Inbreeding is done for the 2nd and third generation, not so much the first.

    This dog had zero interest in anything other than eating and sleeping. He was beautifully built and his only drawback was he was undershot with crooked teeth. We did get him to breed tho. When bred to a Mims Spiffy/Lucky bitch we got the hardest biting/hardest scratching walk away dogs anyone has ever seen. 30 minutes of everything you would ever want to see and then NOPE, NOT TODAY.

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [319417] :: NO LIMIT'S TRINA (online-pedigrees.com)

    When bred to the Cottingham Bear family we got a hodge podge, from another walk away to a game plug to a hard mouthed freak who never made a step out of the corner.

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [539952] :: US1 SON (online-pedigrees.com)

    If I were a breeder I would search for one female out of these that was breed quality and go back to Oscar. This is a great plan if you have room for a hundred dogs but when a person is equipped for 10 or so tops, it is hard to keep a bunch of dogs for 2 to 4 to 6 years down the road. Plus, I never had that much insight, and probably didn't care to have that much insight.

    S
     
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