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Grand Carpet Mill

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by Aseelman, Jan 10, 2022.

  1. Aseelman

    Aseelman Pup

    Does anyone own one and what’s your review on them. I just got a pup from a friend that has been showing over 20 years and has excellent dogs and bloodlines. I want to work him when he’s old enough and was thinking on getting one of these mills. Thank you.
     
    Aseelman, Jan 10, 2022
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  2. Pullingcovers

    Pullingcovers Top Dog

     
    Pullingcovers, Jan 10, 2022
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  3. gog123

    gog123 Top Dog

    If your friend has excellent dogs and bloodlines, I would be asking him/her. Although excellent is subjective but that’s just me being a bit of a cunt lol sorry.
    What type of work are you planning with your Stafford? Willing to bet there are plenty of example of dogs in good enough condition for whatever that work is. Just through good old fashion walking and some off lead exercise. Getting out and about is part of the enjoyment of owning a dog. For now just let the dog be a pup, can do more harm than good if you over do things too soon.
     
    gog123, Jan 10, 2022
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  4. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I worked dogs on two different Grand Carpet mills. One was OK and the other we could never get it to turn like the other.

    Great product. well built and there is nothing wrong with the quality. It was just not what I was looking for in a mill.

    I have a friend that has the same mill maybe 20 years and has ordered replacement belts a couple three times. He swears by his.

    It is a good tool.

    A dog is never too young to put on a mill. I have had puppies as young as 8 weeks spinning a slat mill. The key is how long they stay. A few seconds here and there will let the puppy learn it not some big bad monster sitting in the corner. Keep in mind there is absolutely nothin natural about a dog running a mill.

    As said start with walking the pup. From 8 weeks on there is really nothing better than a 6' lead and a good pair of running shoes. From there go to flirt work and take advantage of their prey drive.

    Down the road the mill can take advantage of bad weather. Good luck with the new pup.

    S
     
    slim12, Jan 10, 2022
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  5. Aseelman

    Aseelman Pup

    I’ve been into dogs my whole life I’m 59 yrs old and was just asking a simple question. Actually This pup is out of top conformation lines. I don’t plan on hunting him he’s just my boy and is a house dog. I used to have some good Patterdale that could do the work and were very hard terriers. I bred Gamedogs for many years and had some good Patrick dogs as well as Heinzl dogs. Oh and my friend doesn’t own a mill but I have back in the day. So if anyone has experience with the GCM I’d like to here your review thanks fellas…..
     
    Aseelman, Jan 10, 2022
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  6. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Like any other let the dog tell you what the mill is doing. The Grande is not super free turning but it turns OK, it will build some low end power.

    If the dog is properly fed and properly hydrated this mill can mass a dog up in the rear end. His quads will explode. His front will get thick. It will not be a lot of muscular endurance but he will look impressive and should be able to pull hell up of its hinges.

    Couple some long walks and some bike rides and the mill can help to get to a really good looking dog.

    Good luck.

    S
     
    slim12, Jan 12, 2022
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  7. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    Many swear by them. I have never used one but have seen them. They are very economic and affordable.. quieter maybe as well.
     
    mccoypitbulls, Jan 13, 2022
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  8. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    There is nothing wrong with them at all. My friend has the same one since pretty much forever. He has replaced the belt a number of times.

    Once a person knows what he/she is looking for after a period of time/work only then can they choose their particular tools of the trade.

    The Grande was not exactly what I was looking for and in the same light I had one of the Gambler's first mills way back when they were G-Force. It was nothing wrong with that mill at all but I didn't get where I thought I wanted to be after putting in time.

    Maybe better said, every mill is its own individual. Every dog is his own individual and every person is his own individual (plug in 'her' it is fits).

    The object is for one to use the other to get that third party to a magical spot knowing full well it is easier said than done.

    S
     
    slim12, Jan 13, 2022
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