Gr Ch Shady Lady v Anyone

And that somehow is suppose to prove that SL was a better one than The Queen? Could have been as simple as one man's pride or ego vs the other.

 

Really? Please explain.

 

LOL @ Bill Cosby
IJ was hard to beat in his day. Wasn't there a yard accident to where 4 titled got stoned in a yard accident...just saying! Maybe that's a folktale? I don't have a deoogg in this fight cause I have never stood across rj but, to say he was the greatest ever is a bit far fetched. Especially when it comes to stud line up ,We could throw in TGs stud line up and say the same. Same with STP was another dog broker. Do you honestly think rj conditioned all those animals himself? BTW this has nothing to do with the topic....lets get back to topic! its not the rebel vs anyone ITS shady lady vs anyone

 

Hold on never said the Rebel was the greatest!

Rebel's stud lineup in the SDJ

CH SUNDANCE ROM
CH TURTLE ROM
CH BUBBA ROM
CH HOMER ROM

Only two wins out of the total wins the Rebel didn't condition or handle and it was on the two wins Ch Homer because they were done before he got him!

Let's be very clear he was also responsible for alot of those champions for those dogs to make rom.

Owner of Tornado bred a female to Shady Lady's sire!

Oh and the last stud dog on the advertised SDJ stud lineup was...

GR CH SANDMAN

Shady Lady produced more winners and champions. Queen and Tornado didn't come close to Shady Lady's production.

I can list atleast another DOZEN champions on the yard other than the stud lineup!

 

Look at how Ricky would win . He always came over a pound or more and called you everything he could to get you to go . It was his plan to be bigger than you . SL didn't walk into everything that was offered to her either . He did have good dogs but everyone knows when you go pound per pound thing can change fast . So we will never know how good they were .

 

You are a Rock Star bro! Love your post.

 

"When you know history you will never be ignorant."...HeyJuice

When you start going thru the journal year by year and start counting up the wins every year those numbers are mind blowing!

Like in '85 he would go 24-4, '86 he would go 30-2 and so on. In his prime he was averaging over two shows a month for almost a decade! Nobody dominated documented history like the Rebel!

 

lets play by the rules,,,
sandman WAS a grand champion before he ran into a real one...

 

I always wondered how anybody could praise these dogmen that rat,,,
by praising them you endorse rats and it shows your core...

The rebel was good but the drug money enabled him to be better and do more,,,
when the rebels choices came back to bite him he curred like the base of his line...

For every cur rebel that crazy horse would like to write a book about,,,
THERE is plenty of dogmen that were as good or better...

Ken Allen was a good sport and not one person would say different,,, lets praise him...

The Rastamannn took his lumps and never sought the lime light,,,
yet he got it because he deserved it and was respected...

The rebel would have been nothing with out the havana boys whom were respected by all...

Crazy horse also felt that with rebels tips that ute colo kennels mary was better conditoner that Ralph Greenwood,,,
I like most your post C.H. but you seem very narrow minded with your rebel obsession...

so many that played their part in the eighties and so many to praise and the cur rebel ricky jones is not one of them...

 

Coming out of retirement and going over 3 hours is a bad showing? Going into shock after going 3 hours is a bad thing?

 

It wasn't that exciting and you know it or maybe you don't .

 

How can anyone praise a dogman that exploits women? Those same exploited women raised how many generations of fucked up children?

"Hero or villain is a matter of perspective."...HeyJuice

Pistol I'm not narrow minded, far from it! My mind is so wide I can seperate people from what the dogs accomplish! It's always about the dogs! Whether your a snitch or exploit women where the children are fucked up for generations has nothing to do with what dogs do!

I've been in the game long enough to know NOBODY is a saint and unlike alot of thin skinned new jacks I know the real character, personalities of the dogman many fantacize and romanticize about! What another mans vices, demons or actions has nothing to do with what the dogs accomplish!

Money has nothing to do with being a dogman! The bottom line in this game is settled between two dogs nothing more or less! Accomplishments are measured by numbers and numbers never lie!

 

The Rebel was averaging two shows a month for almost a decade! How many times do you think that happened Old Goat?

 

Btw Shady Lady was open for over a year with no takers!

 

I sure the smart ones knew what was coming with him and avoided him like the plague.Character like that aint hard to see.Any man that has to run his mouth the whole way doesnt have as much confidence is his dogs as you seem to from reading about them.

 

Well I know quite a few guys down south that would do it . It's not done much here now days but .

 

This could be argued to real good .

 

If people avoided the Rebel like a plaque why in documented history in the Journal he had over a 100 matches? The number is closer to 150 documented matches!

Since nobody know history and I'm shocked nobody has brought it up yet but I will share. The Rebel lost to Queen of Hearts with a sister of Ch Sandman! That breeding produced a 5xw and 3 champions! Those breedings went 14-2 with the only losses being to Gr Ch Buck and Gr Ch Queen of Hearts!

Now we have even more perspective on who was better atleast in the Rebel's point of view. The Rebel was part owner of Tornado, conditioned Tornado for two of her shows and he still didn't get offspring off her but Allen after Shady Lady reputation Allen bred to Shady Lady's sire! What does that tell you? Rebel lost to Queen of Hearts and never wanted anything off of her but Queen's owner was trying to get dogs off of Shady, was does that tell you?

 

Mic

Michael Jordan was one of the biggest trash talkers of all time! How much confidence did he have in his game?

 

I wonder why anyone thinks everyone was scared of SL ? And there are people is the south that could pass his record .