how can i treat babesiosis??

I know one thing for sure. You can't kill it out by killing the dogs infected . Unless your some one like boogieman . If you are in the dogs you will face it just a matter of time . If you stand on the side lines like I do then your pretty safe lol . Good luck folks stay safe and order the treatment because if you do get it it may take longer to get the meds tgan your dog has .

 

You can't eliminate it from other people's stock but you can from yours by killing the infected dogs .

My thing is you treat your dog. It goes into remission then what? That dog is useless.

If you continue to work then you risk all involved. And that is shitty. You breed you risk all involved. That is shitty. A bitch can give it to pups in the placenta and during birth. So you have sick pups. Males you can AI and not pass it. However yard accidents and you infect others.

Be responsible.

 

Agreed you still put the other healthy dogs on your yard at risk for exposure it seems more logical to pay for the testing prior to breeding and for peace of mind than to pay for a lifetime of treatment just to keep a dog alive still doesn't protect your other dogs against it should something happen like an accidental breeding or yard fight. Why go through the headaches it's expensive to treat it you might as well test for it and cull the dogs that have it problem solved it's called being responsible and breeding responsibly.

 

Culling for Babesia isn't as simple or effective as one would think. For someone with a large working yard it would not only be expensive for the testing but the idea of culling for babesia could also mean the total destruction and elimination of a life time of work. As someone once said " Babesia is here to stay, you can't cull it away " It a personal choice obviously but treating it and educating your self about it is the only rational and practical choice. Once modern medicine catches up to Babesia ( and it will ) it will become a normal vaccination protocol or a part of a de-worming routine. Already the Berenil and dox combo has been effective for treatment of Babesia by working kennels for many years with a VERY high success rate. The animals almost NEVER relapse and are just as healthy and vibrant as they were before they got sick. NOBODY want's this crap and thank God I personally have never had a positive animal on my yard but when or if I do I have already made up my mind and decided to treat it and NOT cull for it. I would rather have a Babesia positive BULLDOG on my yard than a non working show or pet bred animal. But that's just my opinion and my choice. If I can knowingly avoid contact with a positive animal would I ? ......... ABSOLUTELY !! And that is my choice as well!

 

I would agree with a few different posts on this thread....nature has a-way off dealing with new disease's as they pop up....the strong survive, might come to mind...but until then or there is a cure for these disease's..act on caution....don't breed to ill dog's or use ill bitch's full stop..some dog's will survive and have a natural immunity to disease..but on-to ya know for sure,,,??????????????some off the dog's out that don't fall to this disease are probally the start off a vaccinne,,,,......time will tell...........

 

The answer to this post is very simple. If you have a pet home and your animals don't have a chance of coming in contact with other animals, cull for babesia all day long. If you have a WORKING yard where accidents happen, step into reality with the rest of us and understand you WILL get babesia, and as long as you maintain a working yard you will CONTINUE to get it over and over and over. Until there is a breed wide movement that requires EVERYONE to test prior to any activities people may participate in, there will ALWAYS be babesia on working yards. I don't see that movement happening ANYTIME in the near future.

If you have a conformation yard, or you simply have dogs for great pets, it is NOT worth the risk, and please cull if you ever see it.

And I know most people who are "anti babesia" do NOT test for it prior to breeding anyway, and are just blowing smoke. I have never met one yard that tested all of their stock. It would be terribly expensive, and require testing multiple times.

Nice post TDK. Honestly I only recommend Berenil on active yards. The other treatments are definitely effective, but are MUCH more expensive. Why spend so much when your dog may contract it again tomorrow? And with Doxycycline, owner compliance is usually the biggest downfall.

 

Texas AM Veterinary Medical Diagnostic Laboratory
Testing a large yard could be expensive. However, the actual test is not expensive at all. $30 to $40. Some benefits of being a Texan.

 

Most veterinary schools will only take a test from a veterinary office. At least here. So although the CLINICS cost is $30-$40, that will not be the client cost. There is shipping, plus the time of the staff to collect the sample. Even at $30, if you have say 30 dogs, that's $900 on the low end. Now you also have to retest EVERYTIME you come in contact with another animal, AND if you see any ticks on your hounds.

 

A&M cost is $24. Yes you need a vet to send off the test. Hence the $30-$40 cost. My vet only adds $8 to the charge. You need a good vet not one out to tale all your money. I wanted to show someone who may have an animal they are uncertain about that its very cheap to test for it. Its good to keep the medicine on hand (berenil and doxycyline) they are the treatment for a lot of things parasite related, and where anemia is a symptom. I just wanted to give info to someone who may need it.
But if you really wanna play the paranoid card? Babesia is a piroplasm there are over 100 types of babesia. Gibsoni is most common in the APBT. Other piroplasms are cytanxzoon, theileria, rangelia vitalli known as "nambiuvu" (bloody ears). Outside of piroplasms there is Ehrlichiosis, and dont forget chags disease caused by the Chagas beetle, or "kissing beetle. " Plus those ticks you mentioned can infect your dog with more than one blood parasite.

 

The funniest thing in this thread is the people who claim to have "working yards" when they know damn good and well they've never sat one down in their lives LOL

 

lol............

 

A true vaccine would be desirable of course. This article is good, if a bit old. It describes the process of creating a vaccine, and talks about the effects of the disease. I gather from reading comments here that some great dogs probably have the disease - dogs that are too good to destroy - these dogs acquired the disease while interacting with other dogs that were infected. If the best way to prove dogs is to engage them with other dogs, and if this disease is prevalent and communicable, then it doesn't seem likely that eradication through culling and quarantine is likely to happen.

http://punkotzky.com/Uploads/Vaccination_against_canine_babesiosis.pdf

 

I agree. There is much more to fear than babesia. Which is why I feel culling for it is ridiculous. People need to do what is right for their individual situation and yard. Telling people they are wrong for not culling all dogs with babesia is absurd. Telling people they are wrong FOR culling a dog with babesia is crazy as well. Maintain your yard responsibly and in a way that benefits your individual situation, and spend less time passing judgement on others yards. Of someone wants a babesia free yard, I would suggest testing everything they own. Control the tick population very well, and don't breed outside your yard unless the dog has tested negative.

As far as a "working yard", I don't know how people define this. Any situation where the dogs may get loose and potentially injure each other is a risk. You can do all types of work and encounter babesia.

 

Great contributions to this thread ATEXAN
and ccourtcleve

 

Babesiosis is a Malaria like disease. Malaria and Babesiosis are very similar in retrospect except Babesiosis is transmitted by ticks and Malaria by misquitoes but the symptoms of the disease are nearly identical. They have apparently just recently discovered a compound that supposedly cures Malaria completely. The compound apparently kills Malaria Sporozites and Mezeorites dead with a single dose. The compound was discovered by Proffessor Chibale of the University of Cape Town in South Africa. The compound has been tested on animals that had contracted Malaria and it was found to have completely CURED the animals of the disease. What us dog people are hoping is that the compound will also work as a total cure for the Babesia disease also. Here's a short interview with Professor Chibale explaining the new compound.

A breakthrough anti-malarial drug is being developed by Dr Kelly Chibale. He says that MMV 390048 offers hope of an alternative to existing malarial drugs that have lost, or are losing, their efficacy.

Neo: 'What are the most significant features of this drug?'

Dr Kelly Chibale: 'It's effective on all known resistant strains of malaria parasite.'

With certain malaria strains, parasites remain dormant in the liver, leading to recurring malarial illness. Dr Chibale's new malaria treatment kills ALL the parasites.

Dr Chibale: 'But apart from curing with a single dose, that dose is very low.'
So it's important to stay one step ahead, which is what Professor Chibale's breakthrough drug is promising to do. It's a South African project, with some help from international partners, like Dr Diego Gonzalez.

Dr Diego Gonzalez (Post Doctoral Researcher): 'From a chemist's perspective it only happens once in a lifetime, maybe twice, to discover such an important compound.'
Dr Chibale: 'The clinical phase of testing cannot be rushed because you're dealing with human beings. Six years would be reasonable if everything goes according to plan.'
Dr Chibale: 'The expertise, the skills, the lessons learnt, in trying to solve malaria, are so relevant and applicable to any disease, which means we can do this again and again and again...'

So we're all hoping the compound MMV 390048 will be able to also eliminate Babesiosis as certain anti malarial drugs are currently already used to treat babesiosis in dogs.

 

Interesting ^^^^^^the above.....^^^^to see if anything come's from it in the treatment of babesiosis.....cheer's..........

 

This could save lots of people and dogs. Hopefully they can test and make available for dogs sooner than 6 years from now. Do you know when this article was published?

 

@ F.D. Hi, they only started talking about it in about March of this year. The drug was determined to be successful at completely eliminating malaria in animals in November last year. There is a Veterinary research Doctor in the USA named Adam Birkenheur (he's a Pitbull guy also) that specializes in vector born diseases that has been made aware of the new compound and is looking into it for a possible cure for babesiosis. They have just discovered it so its going to take a while before it becomes available as the compound has to go through clinical trials first.

 

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