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Black pazmanian

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by POST, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    Not since they got him. Vdawg changed hands a few times so it's out there for people todo with what they want. But the last leg of his vdawgs life he lived in luxury and was bred to select bitches
     
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  2. CHUVALOFAN

    CHUVALOFAN Top Dog

    What do you think Of Sofia ?
     
  3. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    She was the baddest bitch of her time it's a shame she wasn't able to have a long brood career because she would have made a mark there as well. Sofia was actually owned by a local guy as a pup who was basically just starting out with the dogs then he lost his place and had to get rid of her. The rest is history.
     
  4. ragedog10

    ragedog10 Top Dog

    The V Dawg stuff crossed best with Eli x Carver type dog's and that's a matter of record. I saw plenty off V Dawg to more BST blood and they made for a pretty pedigree or possibly brood stock but % weren't there. Sophia was one of the baddest there ever was I might have saw her stop one in 15 but this was in 1975 of course and my memory isn't so well lol. Sophia produced Ch.Pup Pup who was a truly game and bad ass dog! V Dawg x Panthro/Titere blood has been very good to us producing complete package dog's. The Tator Salad stuff is doing well on a yard in the Mid West. Telly Hankton to me is the way to go if your looking for V Dawg blood his litter was one of V Dawgs best(V Dawg x Vida Loca) just a ramble on somethings I might of seen...Yis Ole Man
     
  5. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Sonias had two champon brothers, ch black lost to ch redman8x but was bred once to a daughter of vengance and produced well...
    A great litter and V dawgs best, Just as Vdawgs sire Supermans siblings were the super producers Dirty Jerseys best...
    I like other boyles bred families better TOO, like all the differnt families of RENO dogs, including DUDLEYs offspring...
    But I respect the Paz line and its crosses and rather read about Paz on this thread...
    Paz outproduced V Dawg right??? One sentance later and we are back on topic...
     
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  6. therealjudge

    therealjudge CH Dog

  7. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    I know nothing about LIL Luther but do know about the super producer Luther Jr, I heard there might be semen off him, they say he is rom but I dont know...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [206302] :: <B>SUPER KENNEL'S LUTHER JR.<B>

    Linebered Paz top and bottem on both the top and bottem representing four of PAZs better offspring...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [469547] :: SHOWBOX KENNELS' MS. LUTHER

    This bitch is beautiful and adds another one of Pazs better producing offsping Flauncey and her son the cataylist Sparky...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [477674] :: ART OF SIAM'S BLACK ROSE

    a super PAZ breeding...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [343945] :: SUPER KENNEL'S OH MY! W/PIC
    I like Willy...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [444087] :: STOPEM DEAD'S TAPOUT
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [202882] :: STOPEM DEAD'S SHARMANE 1XW
     
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  8. GameState

    GameState Pup

    That stopem dead stuff looks great....

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  9. therealjudge

    therealjudge CH Dog

    Yeah, I really wanted to get something off of Luther Jr's son Willy Wonka. My partner saw him and told me he was the baddest dog he has ever seen.


     
  10. F.D.

    F.D. Top Dog

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  11. Mudville_Monsta

    Mudville_Monsta Top Dog

    Man every time somebody brings up Black Pazmanian All I can picture is Sliding walls and shuffling fanciers.....lol
     
  12. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    My old buddy Dirty rip cared for Paz jr. for the last five years of his life, he also had pazs harness that he gave me that I got hanging on the wall...
    He fed over a dozen directly off Paz jr. and campaigned three at wights of thirtyf. thirtythreem and thirtysevenm...
    I ve seen over three dozen off paz jr, or his kids and never seen one break fourty... looking thru his offspring list, there are only a handful in there fourties...
    I tried to breed to Paz jr.multiple times, and learned some very interesting moves from paz jr...like if your old and dont want to kee up wit a young bitches energy and an ol fasion date is out the question, let alone fourplay...you bite the bitch on back the head, stick your hind leg on her shouder and run that bitch over..
    Not to say Ive tried it but it works for some...

    I wanted to breed to him cause of his accomplishments and that he was siring smaller bulldogs than he was as I didnt like his size...
    There were a few good bigger dogs off him but more of a rarity...

    Dirty Dixons charges...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [124167] :: <B><FONT COLOR=NAVY><FONT FACE=TIMES NEW ROMAN SIZE=4>GEEHAD KENNELS' CHINKA
    hung herself in keep to go at thirty#,...her and her brother magma were as gentle as a teddy bear and magma was an exception to the excite biters...
    Magma lost to his couisin Jeffery, who was said to have the same disposistion as magma. who lost two at thirtyone and thirty three...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [178745] :: MAGMA
    Jesse won on at thirty one#...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [179309] :: <B><FONT COLOR=NAVY><FONT FACE=TIMES NEW ROMAN SIZE=4>GEEHAD KENNELS' JESSE
    PP beat hargrove and carolina hot boys in twenty seven at thirty seven#...Lost number two upstate at chambers to corn on the cobb he couldnt digest,lesson...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [86148] :: <FONT COLOR=GREEN>RCC'S P.P. (1X)
    He said PPs sister Simone was territorial and would only dish it out on her spot, shy and once going would bite anything...when bred to her halfbrother both kane and able were the same way...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [105851] :: TINY DUEWOP
    Tiny was smaller male also that won at thirtythree#...that produced well also...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [47240] :: THOMPSON'S AL CAPONE
    AC was small also, I LOVE THAT TOP OF THE BOTTEM SIDE...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [54898] :: FDK'S BLK PAZ III
    Paz 3 didnt break mid thirties...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [40475] :: C.HALL'S NICE GIRL
    won one at twenty nine...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [46581] :: STP'S BABY RUTH
    baby Ruth also low thirties...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [371045] :: IM PAZED OUT
    All pazzzed out...
     
  13. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    My old buddy Dirty rip cared for Paz jr. for the last five years of his life, he also had pazs harness that he gave me that I got hanging on the wall...
    He fed over a dozen directly off Paz jr. and campaigned three at wights of thirtyf. thirtythreem and thirtysevenm...
    I ve seen over three dozen off paz jr, or his kids and never seen one break fourty... looking thru his offspring list, there are only a handful in there fourties...
    I tried to breed to Paz jr.multiple times, and learned some very interesting moves from paz jr...like if your old and dont want to kee up wit a young bitches energy and an ol fasion date is out the question, let alone fourplay...you bite the bitch on back the head, stick your hind leg on her shouder and run that bitch over..
    Not to say Ive tried it but it works for some...

    I wanted to breed to him cause of his accomplishments and that he was siring smaller bulldogs than he was as I didnt like his size...
    There were a few good bigger dogs off him but more of a rarity...

    Dirty Dixons charges...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [124167] :: <B><FONT COLOR=NAVY><FONT FACE=TIMES NEW ROMAN SIZE=4>GEEHAD KENNELS' CHINKA
    hung herself in keep to go at thirty#,...her and her brother magma were as gentle as a teddy bear and magma was an exception to the excite biters...
    Magma lost to his couisin Jeffery, who was said to have the same disposistion as magma. who lost two at thirtyone and thirty three...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [178745] :: MAGMA
    Jesse won on at thirty one#...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [179309] :: <B><FONT COLOR=NAVY><FONT FACE=TIMES NEW ROMAN SIZE=4>GEEHAD KENNELS' JESSE
    PP beat hargrove and carolina hot boys in twenty seven at thirty seven#...Lost number two upstate at chambers to corn on the cobb he couldnt digest,lesson...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [86148] :: <FONT COLOR=GREEN>RCC'S P.P. (1X)
    He said PPs sister Simone was territorial and would only dish it out on her spot, shy and once going would bite anything...when bred to her halfbrother both kane and able were the same way...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [105851] :: TINY DUEWOP
    Tiny was smaller male also that won at thirtythree#...that produced well also...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [47240] :: THOMPSON'S AL CAPONE
    AC was small also, I LOVE THAT TOP OF THE BOTTEM SIDE...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [54898] :: FDK'S BLK PAZ III
    Paz 3 didnt break mid thirties...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [40475] :: C.HALL'S NICE GIRL
    won one at twenty nine...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [46581] :: STP'S BABY RUTH
    baby Ruth also low thirties...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [371045] :: IM PAZED OUT
    All pazzzed out...
     
  14. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

  15. 87buick

    87buick Top Dog

    Elias did you know FDK? Or Thriving kennels?
     
  16. GameState

    GameState Pup

    So how would u say he produced out of all u seen ..pretty decent? And also was paz jr the best preforming son to u also?

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  17. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Sure... FDK is now in a wheel chair and from an automoblie accident and got rid of his dogs...The other flew back to upstate NYfor the summer and stayed...
    The Birdman is a very knowledgable dogman and expert conditioner and handeler par excellence, when he was shacked up with sexy mo, they were unstoppable...
    Dirtys house is where alot of those conditioners put in work shaping dogs and he taught Dirty alot about working a dog...
    The first time I met him he was with Dirty getting paid to work a dog to go into the mountian man, they put the dog in great shape but at an hour and a half they picked up, being from the beach or eastern carolina they claimed they LOST due to the ALTITUDE in the MOUNTIANS...
    I tease and say they LOST to the MAN in those MOUNTIANS...
    RIP DIRTDOG and THE MTN.MAN...
     
  18. 87buick

    87buick Top Dog

    I miss those days, bird and his partners arguments were funny, then add Dirty talking shit, watch out. They did breed some tiny hounds. I didn't know One of FDK was in a wheel chair. I know they got busted in Florida and lost a lot of good hounds.
     
  19. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Sr.... a super producer... and Jr.... a good producer... Jr. was no Sr....
    Jr.... the best performing son off Sr... Some might say yes due to his advesary but he just had beeter oppertunity to prove himself and all of those PAZ dogs were great and produced the same... The Paz dogs seemed to add something to every line they were bred to...

    Paz jr. was speacil cause he beat a great game champion Spuck...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [13551] :: SKIPPER'S SPUCK
    You know NIXONs old saying, " cant beat'em better join'em"...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [165351] :: CH NIXON
    Paz Jr. had all the ACE qualities and could overcome any advesaries, man or dog...
    The chesseburger mac nasty took him from ny to michagin and put him under a very stressful roid keep and went into very stiff compition of east vs west detroit...
    Besides the ny fellas, there wasnt an ounce of sportsmanship in the house as Ram and Mac hammered another fast long one out... Everytime mac handeled Paz would try to bite him as a smelt cur in the mac... The mac was on to of his game and had him in shape and handeled Paz jr. like a professional that likes juiced up manbiters... the crowd was as shity as one could be and i beleive there was shoot out after, typical in detroit...Lanes are fast an so are the bullits...
    The ace PAz Jr. prevailed and Ram put on a handeling clinic to the big asshole mac who was stepping on his dogs feet... Ram was as stiff comp as they come and it wasnt a easy feat... I wish i knew how his charge Rooco2x was bred, I thought he was from Flash but was told he wasnt, but they didnt know how hw was bred...
    Unforunatly Ram was killed working grandchampion flash who was stolen... ram is dead, shot over turf and a dog, the mac is traveling from city to city hustlin and ratting on anyone who well except it...
    Its too bad that these two were raised in the enviroment they were as they were top flight dogmen whos carears cut short by a shity city upbringing...
    Hats off to ram for dying duing what he excelled at, working great dogs to go into other greats...
    And to the Mac nastys and JO GLOs, you ratbasterds deserve the shity life you swim in...

    Another reason I like Jr. so much is he wasnt the one in his litter, or two, or three or...
    ONLINE PEDIGREES SIBLINGS :: CHAMBER'S BLACK PAZ JR. :: [99149]
    every one of these siblings produced worthy bulldogs except ms rage who was denied a grandchampioship by Busy2x, a sister to the ACE IBM...
    Shabba was of quality also but held back for brood...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [449389] :: CB & WGBT KENNEL'S PAZZAZE
    Enough pazzaze, if you dont understand the quality of dogs and breeder on the bottem of this ped... you might not never know the tiger inside...
     
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  20. I wouldve like to see how paz jr wouldve produced if he was bred to other stuff...seemed he was bred to alot of Eli types and other boyles bred dogs
    .....
     

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