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any info on corvino bloodline

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by p1tbull, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

  2. C2K

    C2K Top Dog

    Many of Tacoma dogs of Charlie Doyle of IN. was from Corvino bloodline, check the pedigrees back farther. Vickie, re-read my last post I told who barrowed them to make copies and gave them to Sonny.
     
  3. C2K

    C2K Top Dog

  4. young muscle

    young muscle Big Dog

    Clouse don't produce rednoses?
     
  5. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

    You are probably correct. I have been stating on here & everywhere for a very long time , that I don't go by anyone's papers re-guard less of who they come from.
    I stated that not only I but others such as Pete Sparks is quoted in the Colby book & I believe a Sporting dogs journal as saying you can count on most papers having fraud @ some point.
    That's why I started out & ended up with "My Own". I have also seen too many others fake papers & do other crazy stuff over decades such as breeding a few males to the same bitch in the same heat cycle & not know which one produced what puppy, using one belly mates papers or 1/2 sibling papers. I have seen people get more dog pound dogs & put mayday's , jeeps & everything else on them. And some weren't even full blooded.
    Something someone wouldn't know if they didn't see or know the dogs & people in that pedigree.
    The only papers you can be 100% on are the ones with your name on them. That's it!
    My name goes way back further than Bert's in this pedigree that says Sorrell's & Longer than Corvino in the part that says Corvino. And so on with all of the other dogs down from that I combined with mine that were all down from Corvino or not like the Patrick's, Clemmons, Reddick's , Battendorf's, Carver , Holland's, Alexander's Crabbs, Maloney & anything else you may see in this pedigree. But most if not all can be traced back to Corvino in some way.
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=543211
    I say this to say it doesn't matter what you start out with but how you end up.
    Seeing each dog far out ways any stories or rumors about dogs. So I never participated in that type of theory.
    If I was you though I would talk to Bert Sorrell's if you had a problem or question of his breeding's & not try to talk about the man on the internet.
    Not saying what you say isn't true because I'm not Bert & didn't do those breeding's but I have my own & really don't care about what any one else has done or is doing good or bad. As long as you breed your dogs to where you just see your name than you will know the real truth!
     
  6. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

    Oh yeah, now I'm LMAO !!!
     
  7. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

  8. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    no the dogs will show you the real truth not your name .
     
  9. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

    Dogs will show performance, your name will show you know about the dog!
     
  10. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

  11. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Ziggy, what in the smhell does your pups ped have to do with any corvino dogs???
     
  12. OsageDogman2014

    OsageDogman2014 Big Dog

  13. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

     
  14. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

    The pups pics show the consistency of a heavy Corvino base.
    Not just paper work but actual consistency . These pups are line bred 50% of a dog that line bred 43 % of a heavy bred Corvino dog.
    Money aka Lim Gwok Jong. To most that seen him or see his pic , he looks like he is supposed too .
    Line bred Red Jerry.
    Bert Sorrell's had two males( Red Jerry & Bull) & 1 female Corvino's (Crazy Mary) as the foundation's for his family of dogs.
    These pups look like they are bred.
    There's a lot of families in these dogs other than Sorrells , but these pups look like the dogs in the pedigree. Not altogether different like others you may see.
    From Mango-Crossfire, Johnie Rockhead -Lim Gwok Jong , even Red Jerry & Corvino's Crazy Mary.
    You can post one of these pups or there Sire Mango next to Hicks Money & have Money next to Sorrell's Red Jerry & see they are all consistent & related.
    You could mix these pups with any litter of Bert's old Corvino dogs or heavy Corvino & not know the difference.
    It's one thing to have Corvino in your dogs , it's another to have it & still look like it.
    That's why I posted the pics.
     
  15. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    sold to osage, but I am to broke to buy your bs...
    I agree they are uniform nice looking pups that look a shitton better than your original compton stock...
    They are linebred on the dog you bought from bert, so they should be uniform if thats what your breeding for...

    One question, how many of them sorrells dogs did you get from bert??? let me guess, ONE???

    I dont know of sorrels or any corvino dogs to be uniform, thier looks are as vast as the lines they come from and i am sure they didnt breed for a consistant look...

    on another note...
    The Pinky bitch that the master Mr.Giroux had was a finr examle of some corvino blood and the breeding to carlo sure nicked...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: OFFSPRING :: GIROUX' PINKY (3XW) ROM :: [126807]

    Considering the famous dibo dog isheavy in corvino blood, these two must be atleast a thousand percent or so corvino...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [378940] :: MARABEL'S (GRAVEYARD'S) LADY DI

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [198555] :: GARCEAU'S MASTER (5XW)
     
  16. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

    Well to answer your question I got one from Berts yard & 1 from Tatonka yard, but That's all I need from anyone ones yard. I had 1 from many of other yards in the past also.
    I only need one of anything. Just one! Because I breed my own. No secret I'm from Compton but these aren't dogs from Compton. But as the expert you are you should know this also. The heart of pitbull Country was once called this place by many famous dogmen in the day's of Don mayfield.
    Seeing you never posted a lot of Giroux dogs I could only assume that you are him since we are talking about what we as individuals have done.
    Corvino dogs due have a distinctive look such as all families. You posted ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [378940] :: MARABEL'S (GRAVEYARD'S) LADY DI . Does this Hicks Ichy not look related ? http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=115767
    Johnie also http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=115766 , So does these Corvino dogs in the Hicks Money Dog http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=110967 ,& http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=21299 . Look a little more @ the dogs before asking questions & you might get your won answers.
    P.S all anything can be is 100% not a thousand
     
  17. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    yeah I got my WON answers, and I know it wasnt hard to choose from the ONE dog you got from Bert and the ONE you got from Joanie...
    Most know that must be some luck to get a good one from both and not have to chose from an assortment...

    than agian you are a master breeder with only the sorrells name inbetween yours and corvinos, lmao...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [115766] :: HICKS JOHNIE ROCK HEAD

    its funny you posted a ped of the dog I was going to post last night, as your statement on the side of the ped is spot on, but it wont be long before you change that one too!!!

    now the hicks ichy you speak of was born on 2003/06/04
    and ichys daughter was born before her ped was posted on 2004/11/21
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [145125] :: HICKS ROSE BUD
    breeding pups to get pups???
    getting one dog from a an old dogman breeder such bert sorrells and breeding puppies to puppies and using both bert good name and corvinos to boot,,,
    shows a very questionable breeding practice at best...
    ZIGGY you might only boast your name with theres if YOU AND YOUR DOGS WERE OF SORRELLS AND CORVINOS CALIBRE, but you bred a substandard base to it and
    pass them off for something else...some buy into it and thats IMPRESSIVE by any means...
     
  18. OsageDogman2014

    OsageDogman2014 Big Dog

    Lots of great dogmen breed young gyps that aren't tested.....it's been that way for a long, long time. Tudor, Carver, Boudreaux, Sorrels, etc.......add more if you wish. Happens all the time.........Ziggy ain't the first or the last....lol...

    I like the answer he gave to you about getting only one dog from someone....reminds me of me...lol....If you get a good one from a dogman and it can produce, why would you need another one. If you are a good breeder with good sense you can take that one dog and breed it to some other good dog and have generation after generation of quality dogs. I liked the breeding he posted because they looked like the dogs he was trying to reproduce and they reminded me of the Uncle Bud/Red Jerry dogs....which I believed was what he was trying to do...hence the compliment.

    I don't always agree with what Ziggy writes or how he tries to explain what it is he is thinking, but I can see that he is very passionate about his dogs. That is important and I respect that.
     
  19. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

    Look here simple, Johnie was went out 3 x's in 3 weeks @ 18 months old hog hunting & beat all 3 in less than 15mins.
    You know what that means "more than one person saw him hog hunt!"
    More than a few seen him hog hunt!
    He was open with a car tittle behind it yet no takers by the time he was 2yrs old @ the same time his Uncle Bossman http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=115724 was open with a car tittle.
    Research that !
    Bossman had the same record as Jap but all otc's!

    Here's 2 double bred johnie dogs 1xw's . Both in different hands other than mine.
    1 otc , the other Contracted.
    One under 45 mins over a 1xw http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=377807
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=396138 Contracted won @ 59mins .
    All you have to do is find the owners@ that time!
    By all means go out & find yourself one & get your hands dirty !!!!Enough with
    the internet. No one has control what people do with them dogs after they get them but someone's probably waiting on you now!
    You think you feed better dogs than go out find someone with one & prove it!. If not shut up!
    I wouldn't mess with you but some out with them will definitely there have no problems!!!

    You sound more & more like the police or a snitch for one looking for evidence!

    You wouldn't have the balls to snatch the same one otc & "hog hunt's" 3x's in 3 wks !
    And put a car tittle up on top of all of that!!!!
    None of the "hogs" stayed in there with him more than 15mins. None! Even pushing weight.
    And that's why a lot got bred too him!!!

    What you think those are not real Grand Ch's & ch's in his pedigree?
    Top & bottom? Only Bert Got Ch's & Gr Ch's & w's from those dogs?!
    Are you serious?!
    You fishing & nothing more.

    You probably don't even have dogs officer & that's why you never posted a single ped of your dogs officer.
    Nobody can control what people do with dogs after they get them that's why we let go of so few to the public, but you sound like trouble.

    Tooo much internet talk! I just breed for a hobby & that's it. Yes for "legal hog hunts". Key words "Legal Hog Hunts"!
    If you can't stand it, don't like it, don't feed one!
    Who cares about you for real?!
    Said it before no one needs to talk up for what I breed, they can speak for themselves no matter who hands they are in!
     
  20. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    Ziggy, you're really showing your ignorance. Car tittle? You can't even f^cking spell title let alone know how to properly treat a bulldog.
    You sir are a prime example of everything that is wrong about this great breed. You are an ignorant puppy breeding self delusional peddler. Only a low grade moron would brag about some backyard boogie 3 times in 3weeks bullshit let alone ADMIT to it on the internet!!!
     

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