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Bolio blood known for what?

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by bimbil, Feb 8, 2005.

  1. mntman2003

    mntman2003 CH Dog

    lololol I think u think I am mntdog who owns Jake I am good freinds with him and live close to him...I will still visit lololol. I just wanted to point that out before a funny Seinfeild episode took place!
     
  2. Junebug

    Junebug Big Dog

    The ""real"" bolio dogs had black noses and they where strong ""ofensife"" head dogs!!.

    Limey: This is a factual statement from my understanding. Amusing to see these little red dogs posing as "bolio" dogs.
    What percentage of Bolio blood (without Tombstone ;))would a dog need to be consider such by you?
     
  3. eddieem

    eddieem Big Dog

    so going by that is this not a eli bred dog
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  4. Junebug

    Junebug Big Dog

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    Katrina rescue. Old blood.
     
  5. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    AGK i wil try to ecsplain please bare with me as my spelling is bad and sometimes thussend come over coreckly.
    Our own famely produced like 35 ch 4 grch and 4 rom dogs in varuis hands yet in that time there where never more then 15 dogs in total on our yard. and around 30 dogs in the hands of two other major playing kennels.

    In our case whe had 3 dogs as the foundation Tug Rom Nelis Rom and Ch spike.
    We always had 3 type of dogs in our famely back then. The tug dogs called Fox dogs(as there is where they got there trow back from) spike dogs and nelis dogs.
    let me try to consentraight of the fox dogs for now as they do carry Tombstone x red baby in there tru Uptouws ch snubby.

    CH Snubby was a red red nose a holy terror that won lots of $$ back in the day she was bred to some serius legendary dogs in her day including sorrels bull ecetera. she produced nothing of importense.

    But when bred to petronelies Fox jr she produced one of if probely not on of the best litter of that era. including Irish Tom,s CH Loochen(best dog jack Kelly ever saw in his life) if somebody would be able to put a clear color ore black and white picture on from GRCH Boomerang ore you tube video i can continignew with my post in order to make a point...(its going to be a long one tho)
     
  6. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    It looks like a Nigerino bred dog to me, witch carries alot of i belive grch art and Claytons Java blood if corect il try to ecsplain that one as wel
     
  7. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    that means petronelli's fox is the real producer ...simple lol
     
  8. Junebug

    Junebug Big Dog

    Limey: 1.The Tug dog has less than a quarter bolio blood correct? With Tombstone?
    2.Can you tell me where bull ended up living the rest of his life?
     
  9. is this it? apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=314
     
  10. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

  11. ensure42

    ensure42 Pup

    I have a female off of PSK's Reggie x Gleatons Damn that has already produced a Gr.Ch. and a Ch. in one litter. She's in the early stages of her heat and i would like to breed her to a good producing Bolio/Tombstone male. Anyone know of one in the Fla./Ga. area?
     
  12. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    AGR i wil consetrate on our conversation as some forum members thusend seem to be ""able"" to let us do our thing and ore have the ""desensy"" to sit back and waight for the out come.

    ok here is a video of Boomerang [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt4dQm9mH3Y[/ame]
    as you can see he is a dark red dog with black tail V mask!! his brother FOX had this gene pool as wel but sins i dont have a good picture of him i use Boomerang as a aczample. here is limey kennels Red Bull http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=326352
    he is of that same type!!!! now if you go tru his ped you can see hes a pretty darn tight bred dog, His mother Limey kennels Fire fox was the same type ,[​IMG]
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    his daddy (Fire fox brother), called Limey Kennels Terror was a al black Nelis/ch Spike dog.

    Both terror and Firefox,s grand mother was a bitch called Pruedens she lookt the same as Fire Fox ore the other way around i should say.
    And she got her gene pool tru Tug Rom and she obviusly got it tru her dad and grand dad.

    If we take Tug,s Rom status away and that of Fox and make CH spike and Nelis rom the primary dogs in this pedegree.
    we are tempted to call Red Bull a Nelis ore a spike dog
    like you call those two dogs Bolio!! dogs.
    Im afrieght that Nothing could be feurther from the truth!! in this and Red Bulls Case.
    as he is Nelis rom x ch Spike based,

    But he is a (BOOMERANG)FOX TROWBACK dog in real life, iven if it seems that Petronellies Fox plays a Minor but VERY significend role in Red Bull,s outcome.

    So you see a pedegree is nice to know what your dog is ""based"" on, but bij no means thuse it tell you what kind of trow back your dog hase.

    Here is another dog same way bred as Red Bull but this time fire fox sister Bad Bully was used! to produce the ""best"" dog i ever bred saw and owned Limey Kennels Magic

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    Obviusly he is ""not"" a FOX (boomerang) trowback. but a Nelis Rom ch Spike dog..
     
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  13. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    sorry for the dubble picture
     
  14. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    AGR http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=332975 i would look for dogs in this dogs pedegree that resambles him the most in looks!! it thusend nesersarely meens his stijl en behavier would be the same but color and type is a pretty good indication . chek this awnsester out http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=191
    ore this one http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=615
    ore even Black widow.
    he surly thus not rezambles http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=43
     
  15. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Junebug, sins Tug Rom, Mother CH Snubby didnt produce anything of importense, when bred to the other great dogs she was bred to. i see Tug Rom as Fox dog.

    that intire combination Fox jr x Snubby proved to be one of the best litters of the day. including CH Looghen whp never whent over 20 min i belive. his brother Mac Cujo(i belive) was the dog behind Vietnam Kennels sucses from the 90,s and the turn of the cebntury.
    Jack kelly said those butch of dogs from Fox and Fox jr where the best dogs he EVER saw.

    So iventho the Tomebstone x red baby looks very impresif in the buuild up of Tug Rom i dont rate it very importend in the build up in our pedegrees at al.
    It just looke good.
    All this pedegree talk should be trown out of the wondo and dogs should be judged upon the way the look and behave.
    Howmanny of us have heard when they where younger you just look and behave as your grand dad!!. in teory you are only 25% of his gene pool.
    but in real life you can have a 50 ore 75% trowback to him.
    And thats how the cooky crumbles.

    Maurice Carver was known as a super breeder who would sell you the cake but keep the resepy .He didnt breed pedegrees he bred dogs!!, and was known to give you a prety pedegree if you whas one of those that liked to read pedegrees, insted of dogs..

    when i was at Floyd boudraux place in 1999 i was impresed going over is yard, it was looking at my own dogs!. we had some long and serius talks and discussions about breeding and the ""black stuff""
    if i would whanted to buy one of his dogs i would just pick one that i liked
    and askt Floyd to put a pedegree on it. as they where so uniform you could ez see that they all caried the same gene pool

    The rezen of his sucses was reducing genetic variation and breed as close on the dogs who resembled the legendary greats of the past he bred on.
    i would buy a Boudraux dog, not a pedegree.

    Funnt thing was that his yard was 75% black and 25% red same as ours at the time.. il stop here as im wondering off topic
    PS Red Bull is alive and kicking and just produced his first litter age 10 one year ago.
     
  16. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    you bred the bitch cople of times with different male's (good ones)not bringing disent dogs ..thenn you breed with petronaly fox and get super dogs ...and then you reduce his importance in this breeding ......
     
  17. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    now bring that fox to a other producer see what you get then.
    evry pedigree have his geneleader
     
  18. Junebug

    Junebug Big Dog

    Thank you Limey. I was asking about sorrells bull. I know the youngman who almost had his skull cap removed by this dog.
     
  19. I have a red boy jocko-bolio- tomstone male. He is 3/4 rbj an a 1/4 bolio tomstone he's hot ass a fire cracker how should I breed him .....? I like that boyles -bolio stuff .......but I just wanted to kno .....
     
  20. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    crosses well with most anything...we have seen high percentages crossed onto the mims redboy line....also the heavy eli lines///like maverick and skull...just two i have had experience with...others work well also....US1
     

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