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Health reform bill pass

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by grave digger, Mar 22, 2010.

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Health reform are you for it or no?

  1. Yes

    40.0%
  2. No

    60.0%
  1. popper

    popper CH Dog

    i agree 100 percent...... i totally hate this health care bill
     
  2. popper

    popper CH Dog

    grave digger you sure the health care bill isnt something deeper then that? maybe its a big conspiracy??? maybe they will put all those fema coffins you beleive in to good use?

    thats whats wrong with this country... All the poor think they are entitled to something ... hell now the goverment is giving out free cell phones , welfare , foodtstamps , and they give out disability to evrey drunk and drug addict that doesnt have a job... the drunk that lives next door to my grandma is 48 never ever worked , drinks evrey damn day and he is running around with food stamp cards a cell and disability , all from hard working tax payer dollars so he can ride up and down the block and wake up old women at 3 in the morning drunk off his ass... not to mention free health care and meds ... then he takes the meds and sells em.... a maggot if you ask me
     
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  3. Old Timer

    Old Timer CH Dog

    You know I bet you think Hoover is one of the greats as well.
     
  4. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    nothin worse than someone die due to lack of funds and that reality. for people who can afford it, im sure you are against it but you are the minority in this country
     
  5. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    ps how can u say obama sucks? the worse thing he did was PROMISE to do things that he wasnt sure he could do. He was elected in an impossible situation. He can NOT do whatever he wants and most the stuff he has tried to pass has been veto'd. NO man can change an entire country in a few mouths unless its for the worse and i dont feel any worse off now than i did this time last year. people need to see the bigger picture...
     
  6. popper

    popper CH Dog

    yea cause the country is riddled with people looking for hand me outs ...
     
  7. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    true but thats no reason to turn your back one the ones who need it. Better to much aid then not enough, if it were you in need how would you feel if you or a family member couldnt get care bc some people you dont even know try to abuse the system? Not tryin to force my opinion on anyone, just something to think about...
     
  8. JoeyNzoey

    JoeyNzoey Top Dog

    John F Kennedy is and remains the only true president this country ever had, and that's why they murdered him for it, but this health care crap is just bs nothing more. It's easy to become a fugitive for the poor these days all they have to do is pop babies out and recieve more of our hard tax paying money I am sure some of those less fortunate do not neglect the system and are good citizens but for the MOST part anything given as a free sticker is only going to contribute to the damaging cycle of people who want to live by our tax money and continue to neglect what they can.
     
  9. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    can tell i def grew up in a diff neighborHOOD than most here...
     
  10. synno2004

    synno2004 Top Dog

    I agree with you. However, arent we (taxpayers, insured)already paying for other peoples (uninsured) healthcare?

    If it aint broke, don't fix it.

    How much of it is it going to cost TAXPAYERS? Government is still going to come on top............Doctors are a freaking joke..............AAHHH too much to say not enough time to type.

    Regardless of how you FEEL!! the GOVERNMENT has already made the decision, they just have to go through the motions.........vote, vote, vote, what a FREAKING JOKE!!!! Go to Micky D"s and choose what you would like to eat for breakfast, but you cannot choose on this matter. IT IS SET!! By the Beurocratus and POLITICIANS!! ENOUGH...........
     
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  11. grave digger

    grave digger Top Dog

    Hoover :eek:wooooooooooow:plol
     
  12. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    synno my biggest fear is that the price of insurance is gonna go thru the roof, actually im pretty sure it will. but it is more than broke, it needs to be fixed but i think that takin more time to find a better plan would've been benefictual. U know that most countries have universal healthcare? there is NO EXCUSE to people dyin due to lack of funds, that only happens in 3rd world countries which are def are not.
     
  13. grave digger

    grave digger Top Dog

    Shit i got a job and i pay my fucking taxs too like every one else so what are you saying, yeah you got your lazy peace of shit that don't want to do for there self, but what about the ones that's trying that got family's to look over that can get a fucking brake so what fuck them to? lets be fucking real if all of you was in these people shoes the ones that's trying to get back on there feet but shit is not fucking working there way and something happen to one of your kids health how ever money tight and all, you would want it as well sorry that i don't think about my self like others do, I guess i was wrong that i gave my last $57.00 to a family two months ago that was living in a fucking van with two young kids all because he lost his job do to laid off and out of that they lost there home they really got me for my money sorry my heart was in it.
     
  14. grave digger

    grave digger Top Dog

    John F Kennedy is and remains the only true president this country ever had, and that's why they murdered him for it, Think you my god man
     
  15. GemCityPits

    GemCityPits Big Dog

    Trust me when i say i know what it is to be broke, I grew up in the "HOOD" on foodstamps and WIC back when foodstamps was paper coupons and WIC brought the box of food every thursday morning and sat it on the front porch... I know theres some people that need assistance, but that does not change the fact that I grew up, got a job, and went to college to better myself. All it takes is a little effort... but you got people that are OK with where they're at so they never try because everything they need is given to them for free...
     
  16. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    i graduate in august but everyone doesnt have the chance to goto college. If i didnt have a jumpshot i wouldnt have gotten this opportunity. I think that the assistance needs definately tweaking and a time limit but then r u gonna make kids suffer bc of lazy as parents? its a tough situation, however thats for money and food. im talkin about healthcare, i think everyone should have healthcare, that other stuff is extra
     
  17. GemCityPits

    GemCityPits Big Dog

    But see thats the thing there is oppurtunity for people to go to college ,hell some of the grants the government gives you actually get a check for going to school... all Im saying is theres already so many assistance programs out there that this is just another way for the government to get people to need them to survive, I dont know about you but I would never rely on someone else to feed my son or pay my bills ,even if i gotta work jobs at 3 different McDonald's... where do you draw the line? as far as the kids with the lazy ass parents... take em away so they dont get that lazy ass attitude ingrained in them, give em to a family that works hard for the things they have so they know what americas all about!
     
  18. nah.uhh

    nah.uhh Pup

    Bullshit. If you want free healthcare move to canada, they are recruiting. I sweat to god the only think this bill is doing is turning the us into canada. Btw canada does not know how to run a country, they just follow the us and do everything to the extreme.. Doctors in canada are broke, houses in canada cost too much, any type of medical problem has a long wait (months, possible years..). Sure Gramma that is broke and lives alone can't gwt free healthcare in the us. But why don't we just change it so seniors without dependents can get it?
    In canada Gramma doesn't live as ling because of her crappy care coming up. In European countries (AND CANADA) they hand out prescription pills all the time instead of working to find the problem, since drugs are the only way to bring in extra money.g. People go to the doctors far too often when its "free".
    Making healthcare free in the us will accomplish a few things. Doctors will lose money.
    The quality of care will decrease.
    Taxes will slowly but surely increase to the point of robbery (roughly 15% all over canada atm)
    University teachers will make less. Admissions will be cheaper. Quality of schooling will decrease.
    USA will no longer be able to compete for world best doctors if no one goes to school to get a government job.
    I just can't believe anyone on this website is happy with the government stealing from them. Take from the rich and give to the poor, even worse, take from everybody and give it back in equal portions..... WTF that's what canada does. Everyone is forced intoi the middle class... Socialism?? Got damn that's right.

    You can PM me if you wanna argue!
     
  19. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    i can respect what you are sayin gem and i argue to a large degree, very large degree. i think we both are against lettin ppl live off the government. Ill use myself as an example. Work full-time and goto school, i have NO HEALTHCARE. Im not lazy, far from it, just cant afford it. I dont want food stamps or my bills paid, but it'd be nice to be able to goto the doc when something is wrong without having to worry about how in the world im gonna pay for those huge medical expenses.
     
  20. grave digger

    grave digger Top Dog

    :slapme:........
     

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