Largest catch weight dogs

Honestly, I haven't handled many other breeds so I can't really compare him to a 95 dobe as I've never handled one! lol The vast majority of dogs I've handled have been of the bull and terrier persuasion but I know from the few males mutts I have had here that were his size, there is no comparison. OMG. He's a freakin' MONSTER. lol The power behind him, with the drive he has, is pretty over the top. He is definitley not a dog for the faint of heart. lol He's not one of those stubby waddling messes either. He's quite balanced with a good amount of leg. He can hop a six foot fence like it was nothin and he's got some serious freak bite! lol Now that he is eleven, he's ALMOST managable. lol If I had to guess though, I doubt another breed his size would have near the amount of power he does. The breed is just built for power, mentally and physically.

 

makes sense, good looking dog btw. My little dude is about 18lbs and hes not 12 weeks yet. hes looking like hes gonna be a big one.

 

One more comment on the "difficulty" of bigger dogs. Even though a 100# dog may not be "twice as strong pound for pound" than a 50# dog...they certainly ARE more than twice as difficult to handle because these dogs push US OVER OUR LIMITS as well. An H1 hummer isn't as efficent as a mo-ped, but you aren't going to be able to grab the back end of an H1 and hold it still when someone hits the throttle. Most men can hold and walk a 100# drivey pit or pit like dog on a leash while walking it...but when they "GO HARD" it can be tough...and when getting physical they are very tough. I know from being on the tooth end myself. (Note, the dog below is not an APBT, as it is a Swinford K9...but it let's me feel the power of a drivey big dog that is well put together).









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No doubt! Try being a 113 pound female walkin' a dog that size whose motto is ''GO GO GO HARD!'' lol For the first year I owned Tank, my collar bone ACHED constantly! lol He actually had two male owners before me that couldn't keep him out of trouble. I always thought he'd do better with a male owner due to his size, but even though I'm tiny, I'm WAY more stubborn than him, so it worked out well!

 

That Swinford is beautiful Lee. I actually got a chance to get to know one and raise a litter of it's pups. He was a pretty cool boy.

 

makes total sense. Im used to having large dogs so i know how it is to handle one, i just had the impression pitbulls were way different. ive actually never even heard of that breed of dog in the picture, its a good looking dog though.

 

You know...the mo-ped/H1 Hummer may not be the best comparison due to an exaggeration of size difference, but still...

If you can bench press 200 pounds and MAX at that weight, then 150 may not be that hard...but 225 is impossible...despite it only be 50% more weight than 150 (150 + 75 = 225). My point is it isn't JUST about abilities of the dogs, but also about the limits of the people handling them.

Years ago, I seperated 2 adult males that weighed 110 pounds or so that got into a kennel fight. It was a bitch...and my arms were like rubber hanging from my sides due to exhaution...and I am in pretty good shape. My guess is the "old timer" dogmen just didn't find much fun dealing withh the trouble of the big game dogs...when smaller dogs would serve the same goal...as the dogs were not...which is the best overall...but which is the best at a MATCHED weight. For me though, since I am NOT into matching dogs against other dogs, size does matter. I breed and train GUARD DOGS/PP dogs...so I prefer dogs that can stop a man that has bad intensions ASAP. For my goals...I find the 80-120# dogs that are lean to be ideal. Smaller than that and I find them to have less stopping power. Bigger than that usually doesn't bring much more to the table in ability, but often brings traits I don't like (slop, laziness, etc). Most of my personal favorites and best all around dogs were right in the 90-110# range.

 

I don't know if you are referring to my post above or not where I described seperating two adults that got into a kennel accident years ago...but for the record, I am not into dog fighting. It just happens that I have owned several dogs my entire life. I have been blessed with not having to deal with many kennel accidents as we have excellent confinement...but years ago the kennels we had were not of the same caliber as the kennels we have today.

I see you have/like Eli dogs. Did you get your dogs from Floyd himself? Some of his dogs were pretty decent size.

 

zoe i know the feeling i have a 88 poun conditioned pit , when he is not in shape he tops the scales around 102 and he is just a pain to handle when he wants something .. he will knock you over real fast and they are just really hard to care for if they get hurt or if they gotta get into vehicles...he has a head like a grizzly bear. the next door neighbors lab got out and into my yard and my white dog killed him and i couldnt get this fuker off of him . he is solid as a rock with some great drive and very good stamina. he keeps up with my 40 and 50 pound dogs. but i do find when he is not in shape he huffs and puffs and falls out of shape real easily. he looks very similiar to a dogo just shorter.

 

see in my opinion thats an awesome dog, i like dogs on the larger side. great looking animal you have.

 

as far as protection work goes what in your opinion is the best dog for it? atleast out of the ones you have used or seen.

 

To bad they cut the tails on them,they would be something to see with a full tail.

 

Ha! I know that rubber arm feeling. I thought I'd try the flirt pole with Tank, and he zoned right into, grabbed ahold of it and proceeded to drag my little ass around the yard. I refused to let go as I worked REALLY hard on training him to leave things as even getting him off something with a breaking stick is next to impossible and I didn't want him to ''win'' it! I'm glad no one was there to see me wrastlin' with this giant freak to get the rope out of his mouth, but I got it! My arms ached for a good week after that! lol

 

He looks quite a bit like the dogo x pit x american bulldog I had here. He's a good lookin' guy!

Ya... managing Tank is a full time job. His last owner let him get a hold of a rottie and multiple men were beating him with golf clubs and he didn't even notice. :eek: Him getting ahold of another dog is not an option. I honestly can't even break him off the spring pole with a breaking stick when he's in ''mode'' as his bite is so strong. It's all about prevention with him because once he's got ahold of something, good freakin' luck getting him off! I've put a ton of work into his ''leave it'' command, but he's so driven, it'll never be 100%. Good thing he is ROCK SOLID with people as you wouldn't want this guy takin' you out! lol

 

If you want a pure sport dog, I would go with a malinois that comes from lines bred for that work.

If you want a true street worthy PP / family guardian / home protector, I have found the Swinford to be the best for that.

Oh...Some Swinfords do have full length tails. Most are docked to about 1/3 to 1/2 original length so they don't knock stuff all round. This leaves enough for a handle should one need to have a handle at the back end.

 

he was not a patrick dog... he was a mix of heinzl/loposay/cumming's stock.but you are correct that he didnt ever produce anything like himself and he pulled bumpers off of dump trucks.he used to wear a dbl chain in which he wore the links thin about every 8 mnths!biggest one i seen was about 65# from him.

 

He was speaking of real dogs. Tosa = more curry then a indian buffet.

 

How can you consider the tosa a cur dog?

 

How can you not?

 

that is the funniest post ive read in a LONG time