Chinaman

[Caos]

We are tryin it with no frisco out of the old blankship stuff the China bullyson stuff from TomToo, Yea yea we all know what the story is with that shit, And to be honest Dont care, I know one thing I belive Where I got these dogs from over tom garner any day, and I go with my eyes not my ears. The old china blood was good stuff the stuff blankinship had were bad ass dogs thats why I went with them, I would bu a dog from a kennel that uses them and keeps them befor you blowing a bunch of hard money on dogs that aint worth feedin. And you go buying dogs just becouse of blood you are never going to make it.

another good post J well done my friend!

[coach]

there is plenty of good chinaman blood out there it aint hard to find. here are a couple dogs predominantly chinaman blood with a lil of this and that in the mix. i am blending bolo mojo rising and simba blood for my base.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=303079

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=257410

Love that 2nd dog man...First one too but that 2nd one is nice

[coach]

there is plenty of good chinaman blood out there it aint hard to find. here are a couple dogs predominantly chinaman blood with a lil of this and that in the mix. i am blending bolo mojo rising and simba blood for my base.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=303079

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=257410

Dont forget the ever important Hammonds stuff!

[getz305]

Tom Tu/Blankenship strain has no frisco in it and it the best/rarest strain of chinaman....the controversy/gossip surrounding Tom Tu is supposively that Tom Garner claims Tom Tu wasnt bred the way Blankenship said he was.. who are you going to believe? Tom Garner who is a proven liar, peddler and paper hanger or Paul Blankenship whos main interest was maintaining and preserving a superior line of proven gamedogs and not peddling them for a living? The people that have Tom Tu keep it to themselves, dont peddle it and if they sell a couple to pay for maintenance of the dogs they dont sell it to just anybody and they won't be cheap..working kennels only.....Garner will sell to anybody who has the money...when it comes to the Blankenship strain there were two main studs...Abe and Tom Tu Jr....Abe was known to be the better producer of the two and our blood is heavy on the Abe blood

[loudboyjr]

We are tryin it with no frisco out of the old blankship stuff the China bullyson stuff from TomToo, Yea yea we all know what the story is with that shit, And to be honest Dont care, I know one thing I belive Where I got these dogs from over tom garner any day, and I go with my eyes not my ears. The old china blood was good stuff the stuff blankinship had were bad ass dogs thats wrhy I went with them

any idea why t.g. Said tom tu wasnt off of him?

[getz305]

because he knew the quality of the Tom Tu dogs and saw it as a threat to his business

[TripleJ]

any idea why t.g. Said tom tu wasnt off of him?

I have no idea why people say or do the things the things they do.I know that dealing with some dog men you just see what you need to get what you need and move on.I can care less about all that All I care about is my dogs and how they perform,And I know how to get the dogs I want and its by breeding the best of the best , But you can rest assure that my dogs are bred just like I say, No one knows how a dog is bred unless you were there. all you can do is hope they are some what right and use them as a tool. But to be honest I think the tomtoo dogs are just like Blankinship says, I know how dog men are and I have been around a bit myself and the dogs are just like the first Chinaman dogs I seen the ones like ninja they are good dogs, so that is why they are getting bred not just couse of the ped.

[vagabond]

there is plenty of good chinaman blood out there it aint hard to find. here are a couple dogs predominantly chinaman blood with a lil of this and that in the mix. i am blending bolo mojo rising and simba blood for my base.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=303079

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=257410

You have some very nice bred dogs there JTC. I wish u best of luck with them!!! Regards from Europe

[coach]

because he knew the quality of the Tom Tu dogs and saw it as a threat to his business

Bullshit....both produce great dogs

[hardtime]

there is plenty of good chinaman blood out there it aint hard to find. here are a couple dogs predominantly chinaman blood with a lil of this and that in the mix. i am blending bolo mojo rising and simba blood for my base.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=303079

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=257410

had gl with the mojo rising stuff but most of mine seem to come with no mought was my only issue

[JTC]

Love that 2nd dog man...First one too but that 2nd one is nice

thanks man. the only one that has proven themselves beyond the shadow of a doubt is the first one, and the only one i would consider breeding to at this point in time. hellboy has a long way to go but looking real good so far.

[JTC]

You have some very nice bred dogs there JTC. I wish u best of luck with them!!! Regards from Europe

thank you sir.

[getz305]

Bullshit....both produce great dogs

if you look at the ratio of Tom Tu dogs vs. Frisco dogs there are higher percentages in the Tom Tu blood

[coach]

if you look at the ratio of Tom Tu dogs vs. Frisco dogs there are higher percentages in the Tom Tu blood

You may be right(I would bet you are without the numbers and what ya hear)...I am just saying that both do a great job...both lines have good and bad

[coach]

thanks man. the only one that has proven themselves beyond the shadow of a doubt is the first one, and the only one i would consider breeding to at this point in time. hellboy has a long way to go but looking real good so far.

I love the hammond part of the second ped.It just goes to show that really ..ultimately the dog is all that matters.The o'l boy is narley lookin!

[TripleJ]

You may be right(I would bet you are without the numbers and what ya hear)...I am just saying that both do a great job...both lines have good and bad

Oh no man you are off bud ,They are night and day, You can go any place in the world and get a bunch of frisco dogs. Show me 10 men in the world with the tom tu blood- then out of those ten ask them how maney pups they sell lol (You see where I am going right) The point is Frisco was bred till his balls clancked, so you are going to get something off of him , now look at the tom tu stuff point made. blankinship didnt peddle the shit out of his dogs. The frisco dogs and the tomtu are night and day, tomtu was a battle cross look at the ped he is not line bred dog like frisco, Yall are looking at apples and oranges

[Caos]

hey J what you got from Tom Tu stuff?

[loudboyjr]

I have no idea why people say or do the things the things they do.I know that dealing with some dog men you just see what you need to get what you need and move on.I can care less about all that All I care about is my dogs and how they perform,And I know how to get the dogs I want and its by breeding the best of the best , But you can rest assure that my dogs are bred just like I say, No one knows how a dog is bred unless you were there. all you can do is hope they are some what right and use them as a tool. But to be honest I think the tomtoo dogs are just like Blankinship says, I know how dog men are and I have been around a bit myself and the dogs are just like the first Chinaman dogs I seen the ones like ninja they are good dogs, so that is why they are getting bred not just couse of the ped.

I wasnt questioning your dogs at all... U made the "everybody knows what t.g. Says abt him (tom tu)" and I personally had never heard of tom tu or the gossip so I was just asking your opinion on why you thought he said it.

[Mr.Revolution]

TripleJ i just looked up tom tu ped.That a nice ped right there imo.If the dogs honor them papers thats some good shit.

[TripleJ]

I wasnt questioning your dogs at all... U made the "everybody knows what t.g. Says abt him (tom tu)" and I personally had never heard of tom tu or the gossip so I was just asking your opinion on why you thought he said it.

I just assumed every one herd all that crap, Hell you know how it is if it has to do with china man there is allways a bunch of talk with them dogs. And yes the tomtu dogs do complement the ped, But even as tight as I have it its still only about 25%chinaman in my dogs Once you cross it and thats just what I want I think the chinaman crosses are good. Even the frisco crosses are good not all but no line has all good. but I dont want that stuff pure on any of it lol. Im not a breeder I breed dogs for my self and if I sell a few for feed cost .So when I breed dogs it has to give me my best bang for my buck I hate pups I hate raiseing a bunch of litters so when I do breed dogs you bet your sweet ass I really look at every angle befor I stick them, Hell the breedings we made with the tomtu stuff Ive been wanting them dogs for 15 years Its just my choice to wait till I found just what i wanted, If any one reather use the frisco dogs and they aregood for them thats great! and if all the guys were like that there would be none of this childish my dogs better than your dog crap. (there is only one way to know that)or he said she said, i think if you like the china stuff you use thats all that matters and frankley I know Tom garner had nothing to worrie about with the tom tu dogs any way hell frisco netted at least 50x the money that tom or abe or Jr did.