Patterdale/APBT cross pictures

[snakewidomski]

Originally Posted by Blackpoison

what line is the apbt

I don't know. It's from a best to best breeding, by a gipsy tribe from the Netherlands, who match their dogs.
I only know that there was an AmStaff battle cross in the past, and the AmStaff was an X-Pert dog.

[Taichi Bulldog]

Originally Posted by benthere

because the crosses make some good dogs. how do you think they came up with the patterdale in the first place?
we crossed a small bulldog ***** with a patterdale and got a whole litter of hunting dogs with noses as good or better than the "pure" patterdales. cross the half breeds back to patterdales and you can hardly see the bulldog in them, the size comes back down to under 20lb. one more generation to a patterdale and you won't even see the bulldog in there. look at any patterdale pedigree and you will see alot of "unknown" in there. 9 times out of 10 its either bulldog or lakeland, maybe a little JRT. patterdales aren't really a breed, more a type.

the BREEDING route/scheme you described is the exact route i had planned to take in making the cross; If i got beyond just dealing with A.P.B.T. 's. i forgot where the idea came from , but it was from working terrier material i ran across back in the early-mid 90's.

[Taichi Bulldog]

Originally Posted by pic***o

Any bulldog shouldn't be breaking 35lbs at 9 months,

if by bulldog you mean A.P.B.T. ; then you was either joking or don't know bulldogs. performance weight is 35-60 lbs on average and that's not new 411. some *****es go smaller too of course.

yes a bulldog/a.p.b.t. can add fire into a patty line. but best way to add that fire is to do it with the patty's that are too hard to be real useful in the hunt. that's the most efficient way to add fire to a line that is lacking it in patterdale's imho.

when u don't have that type of dog/***** available then sure look for the real hot small A.P.B.T. to get you back into the hunt faster. takes a little more effort then the other route but get's her done at the end of the day still.

thank you folks for showing/sahring your crosses, some mighty fine looking critters yall got there. peace