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    Does Gotty Have Staffordshire In Him??? Akc Ukc Gr Ch Estrellas Black Bear In Pedigree

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine View Post
    Does Gotty Have Staffordshire In Him??? Akc Ukc Gr Ch Estrellas Black Bear In Pedigree
    Use the search feature. This has been discussed on several occasions.

    Welcome to the forum btw.

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    Thanks Bully Dogs I Will Do As Instructed... Pm Me When U Get A Chance

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    I think thay did cross some Am Staff into there hippo stock to create the gotti line. The less the better thow. I like my gotti dogs tight on hippo blood. jmo lol Seroiusly Gotti is not close to being a gamedog or a apbt for that matter. Like Bully said do a search. Big Game
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    Does Gotty Have Staffordshire In Him??? Akc Ukc Gr Ch Estrellas Black Bear In Pedigree

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    if i were friends with tony moore i would kick his ass. simple as that.

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    I think Gotty had Amstaff, Mastiff, and English bulldog in him.

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    Did My Research And Juan Gotty(father Of The Blues) Does Have Staff In Him---so Does It Make The Blues A Mix Breed???

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine View Post
    Did My Research And Juan Gotty(father Of The Blues) Does Have Staff In Him---so Does It Make The Blues A Mix Breed???


    not all blues are mixed breed curs. that particular line of dogs in my eye certainly are.

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    *sigh*

    What is the source of your "research"?.

    None of us will really know all we can do is speculate.

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    Hello Wolverine.

    Juan Gotti is FAR from being the "father of the blues." Blue dogs were in our breed LONG before Gotti was even thought of.

    As for him having AmStaff in him, yes, he does & a lot of it at that.

    Finally as to your question of his purity, no one knows for sure, but many fanciers believe he is a cross of APBT, AST & English Bulldog.

    If you want to know more about Gotti, just use the search engine on this site. He has been the subject of discussion many times & you can find some good info there.

    Hope this helps
    Last edited by ABK; 05-19-2008 at 09:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchie1936 View Post
    if i were friends with tony moore i would kick his ass. simple as that.

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Here is what the forums think of this dog...

    http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showt...ght=Juan+Gotty

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    One huge down fall on the Gotti lines is health issues . ask around. They werent bred with health in mind.

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    I USED THE ABOVE AS MY RESEARCH---AKC DOGS ALL IN THE ANCESTERY----LOL

    P.S. I DO KNOW ABOUT THE STORY OF GOING LIGHT BARNEY AND THE BLUES...

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    Why are you yelling?
    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine View Post
    I USED THE ABOVE AS MY RESEARCH---AKC DOGS ALL IN THE ANCESTERY----LOL

    P.S. I DO KNOW ABOUT THE STORY OF GOING LIGHT BARNEY AND THE BLUES...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty View Post
    Here is what the forums think of this dog...

    http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?
    t=16827
    THANKS MARTY----VERY VERY VERY INFORMATIVE!!!

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    Just to clear the air,the paper hanging came to the line via gotties sire"do goods camacho"The pedigree has his sire listed as "chain gangs barney"a dog nobody's ever seen,and the picture of raider two's sire is actually his son "cream"aka "chain gangs butt head"if it even shows up,many places you go and check the pedigree it will be blank were raider 2's sire should be,both dogs seem to be part ddb..I got this info through private email and it checks out.....
    Gotti part mastiff,his offspring obviously old bulldog blood crossed into the mastiff,oeb,amstaff woodpile.....
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...p?dog_id=32696
    raider two's sire

    and the son of camacho,listed as raider 2's sire sometimes'also listed as
    "chain gangs baney",actual name is "cream"

    and off course the abomination known as back yard boogie,son of gotti,first generation bulldog hybrid no doubt..

    just alittle info for those who care to know...

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    wow so I just looked a gotti's ped for the first time, there is alot of staff in there, just in the ped, but you know what the most frightening thing is... six generations back there were actually quite a few good game dogs there. Ross's Red Devil shows up like 5 or six times, and there is some tudor stuff within the first 5 gens. Just to name a few. Just goes to show what can happen if you breed for the wrong reasons. What a freaking travesty that dog is. I mean think about it, given the good dogs in the ped back then, at some point someone had to be sitting there with a well bred game dog...( a breed which is in my opinion a masterpeice of more than a hundred years of selective breeding) and said to himself you know what I think I'm gonna breed him to the walrus cur down the street and then pick the culls with bowed legs big heads and breathing problems and breed them together...then I might get what I'm looking for. Then I'll sell these creatures who will be incapable of doing any type of job for alot of money. Seriously, I don't want to start another bash bullies thread, but seriously if he wanted a english bulldog why start with well bred pit bulls. Honestly it's pretty disrespectful to the breed and all those who spent years making it.

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    I don't mind Bully dogs and I have been doing some research on them over the years but they ARE NOT an APBT and people need to stop saying they are. In reality they are a mutt, some lines have bulldog and mastiff added to them for the additional size but I don't think that all of the lines do. Most of the people breeding them these days are breeding them way to tight to get the size that the want and they don't realize(or care) what they are doing is hurting more than helping them. Most people think that all bullies are just fat and lazy but that is not the case with all of them, but there is a large portion that are fat and lazy, no doubt about it. I have seen a decent amount that are pretty athletic but most of them aren't Gotty dogs. That is just my 2 cents on this topic

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