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    can anyone give me any info about this dog. i've never seen him discussed on this forum not 2 say that he hasn't. was he as good as i have read about? has anyone been lucky enough to have seen him in person. are there any of his offspring out there and how have they turned out and produced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitlver
    can anyone give me any info about this dog. i've never seen him discussed on this forum not 2 say that he hasn't. was he as good as i have read about? has anyone been lucky enough to have seen him in person. are there any of his offspring out there and how have they turned out and produced.
    Going light Barney was an ACE by the definition of the word. There was rumors he was poisoned his third time out. I dont know if this was ever confirmed. In Richard Strattons book "This is the American Pit Bull Terrier" he dedicates a whole page and the back of the cover to Barney... since he was such a good dog. Mr. Stratton used Barney as the dog to describe the definition of an ACE. That right there should show his respect received from the gamedog world. I don't know the current condition or performance of the Going light line.
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    Was'nt a huge fan of Barney, but can certainly appreciate his talent.....his son Billy, was always in his own world, lol and loved to eat rocks, happy guy though, also loved to sit on the treadmills.....this is one my husband built ....
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    I have some Barney blood bred down through Going Light Lucky and Going Light Brandy. I love my 3 Barney dogs although they are up there in age. They have shown good agility, good mouth, & great brains. The only thing I have a problem with is they are thinkers & some days they thought that they didn't want to do what I wanted them to do & they would try to hightail it outta there. Damn dogs.......think too much sometimes...... I crossed the blood with very tight Bolio blood & have/have had several good ones come from it.

    Obviously, I like Going Light Barney & think that he proved himself as a great dog. However, I don't think that he went on to produce a whole lot. However, I'm also not sure as to how much he was bred & to whom (& that matters as we all know).

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    Aycart, owner of May Day, started off with the Going Light line in the '80's but then soon switched to a different line since the performance of the Going Light line was not there anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miakoda
    I have some Barney blood bred down through Going Light Lucky and Going Light Brandy. I love my 3 Barney dogs although they are up there in age. They have shown good agility, good mouth, & great brains. The only thing I have a problem with is they are thinkers & some days they thought that they didn't want to do what I wanted them to do & they would try to hightail it outta there. Damn dogs.......think too much sometimes...... I crossed the blood with very tight Bolio blood & have/have had several good ones come from it.

    Obviously, I like Going Light Barney & think that he proved himself as a great dog. However, I don't think that he went on to produce a whole lot. However, I'm also not sure as to how much he was bred & to whom (& that matters as we all know).
    I think Barney was a Great dog in his own right, as with any line, as you know, their can be great dogs ,good dogs and not so good, odviously lines with consistancy is best , also, I agree, some dogs produce good dogs reguardless of who their bred to, others, depends who..... I'm glad your happy with your dogs, they sound like great dogs....

    I am found of the Bolio line, one dog in particular we were fond of that had some Bolio was an awesome dog some friends of ours L. & K. White had years ago, was a lt. choc./ red brindle and white rednose named Boozer....which as an adult they sold to M. Schaeffer...
    CH. SCHAEFFER'S BOOZER http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...p?dog_id=29954
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    barney was a good dog don't see much of that blood these days though

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitlver
    can anyone give me any info about this dog. i've never seen him discussed on this forum not 2 say that he hasn't. was he as good as i have read about? has anyone been lucky enough to have seen him in person. are there any of his offspring out there and how have they turned out and produced.
    ***** Going Light Barney *****



    Although I have often been referenced as the authority on Going Light Barney, I must confess that I never even saw Barney in holds. I found it quite fascinating, however that he was one of the most controversial dogs of which I ever knew. I think part of the reason for that fact was Barney's flamboyant owner, who is still alive as I write this. Although not a bad fellow, he had a way of stirring up the dander of other dog men. Consequently, all of Barney's accomplishments were always scrutinized with a jaundiced eye. Since I had my picture taken with Barney, a lot of people seem to think that Barney once belonged to me, but such was not the case, although I did own a daughter of his which I bred back to him. That breeding produced George, one of my finest all-time dogs from a pitdog perspective.

    Its hard to believe now, but Barney was welped way back in the 60's, so he is definitely an old timer. He was a product of breeding a daughter of Johnson's fabulous Goofy dog to a Rascal $#@!. That produced Barney's mother, Penny, and she was nothing to write home about-possibly a cold $#@! and a trifle shy. She was bred to Rootberg's Booger, strictly on the basis of his being a pure Corvino dog. So it is not surprising that not much was expected of the litter, but it produced Barney and several females which were renowned for their gameness, one of them, Going light Babe, winning best in show down south in a losing effort!

    Barney had a storied career. He had been farmed out to some guy in the inner city to raise and was rolled from the time he was six months old, something no educated dog man would do. After he killed two dollar George, a highly valued pit dog in a pick up match when he was only a little over a year old, he was reclaimed by his owner, who called himself Larry Light in the pit circuit. He was matched into fast company down in Mississippi against a Carver dog and won handily in about 20 minutes. This was the convention which also featured Boomerang and the immortal Bolio. Bolio won best in show because he won over the dog with the highest reputation, a dog which was thought to be unbeatable.

    The controversy comes from the fact that Barney was counted out in his third match in Dallas. Larry swore up and down that he was doped, as the dog didn't know where he was, and had lost his equilibrium for several hours. Whatever happened, Barney came back to win six in a row against the best the other side could come up with. One match was raided and the dog confiscated. This was before the felony laws, and the dogs were broken out of the pound in which they were held. The match was held, and Barney won in an hour and five minutes. Barney was dyed black and shipped to a preacher in New Mexico. Part of the reason for all of this chicanery was that Larry was suing the animal control people for losing possession of his dog!

    Barney's toughest match was against another ear dog, extremely well thought of, and the match went nearly two hours before Barney prevailed. That was back in the oil crisis days, in which you couldn't plan a long trip, as you might run out of fuel. Larry and his cohorts loaded up the station wagon with several gallons of gasoline so that they could make the trip there and back without having to worry about fuel. I was in vited to go along, but I was not of mind to travel in that rolling time bomb! Hence, I missed my chance to see a great match. Barney usually had an easy time with his opponents, controlling them with ear holds until the dog was worn down, and then Barney went in for the kill. I think it was the quit in Dallas that made it possible for Larry to go on finding matches for Barney.
    After the above mentioned match, a fellow named Jobe, who put out a pit dog magazine, did a cover story on Barney. He had been there at the match, and he dubbed Barney a Grand Champion. That was the first time I had ever seen the term used. Now, he would not be eligible for the title because of the loss in his second match. Mitigating circumstances don't count, and besides, Larry was never able to prove anything.

    Barney was known more for ability than gameness, but he was game enough to win, and the loss came under suspicious circumstances. Barney was an unusual Bulldog in that he had an aloof personality, in direct contradistinction to most bulldogs. He won Larry's wife over because he would sit up and do tricks on the chain or in the kennel run, but once he was taken out, his demeanor changed completely. He had achieved his goal, so the claim was gone, and he simply was off to do what he wanted. Larry, who was a real-estate speculator who owned half the land in San Diego county, loved the deviousness of the dog. He was also delighted that his wife, who abhorred the pit dog game, was Barney's stoutest ally-although she certainly never went to a match.
    Barney was never open to stud, and he was never bred much, as Larry seemed to concentrate his breeding program on breeding dogs that were down from Penny and in breeding Barney's sisters, in particular Babe. Larry was one of those guys who kept track of litters by naming all the pups with the same letter, but somehow one in this litter got named Scarlet. Although a fine pit dog, she escaped Larry's ownership. Another game sister of Barney was Belle, who won several matches. -Richard Stratton-


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    usually when i see barney dogs they are bred very tight......
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...p?dog_id=46831

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    i believe cold steel kennels has decendants of "goin light barney"

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    whitey, CSP does have some Barney blood in their $#@! Hogtown Light. I have a pup off of her that I took back to a tighter Barney dog then crossed with some very tight Bolio. Weird thinking but turned out great. & Hogtown Light is one awesome $#@! even in her older years!

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    "Hogtown Light is one awesome $#@! even in her older years!"
    I second that-

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    there is a dogman in va. who has some very tight bolio blood on his yard that he crosses with jeep and redboy and has produced some great dogs. he told me that he has met pat patrick personally gotten some of his studs from him. man you should see the specimans on his yard i really enjoyed talking to him he seemed honest and the fact that he didn't want to sell any of his dogs really made me feel that he wasn't in it for the money. the only reason he did sell me a pup was because i knew his nephew.
    Quote Originally Posted by RHI
    I think Barney was a Great dog in his own right, as with any line, as you know, their can be great dogs ,good dogs and not so good, odviously lines with consistancy is best , also, I agree, some dogs produce good dogs reguardless of who their bred to, others, depends who..... I'm glad your happy with your dogs, they sound like great dogs....

    I am found of the Bolio line, one dog in particular we were fond of that had some Bolio was an awesome dog some friends of ours L. & K. White had years ago, was a lt. choc./ red brindle and white rednose named Boozer....which as an adult they sold to M. Schaeffer...
    CH. SCHAEFFER'S BOOZER http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...p?dog_id=29954

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitlver
    there is a dogman in va. who has some very tight bolio blood on his yard that he crosses with jeep and redboy and has produced some great dogs. he told me that he has met pat patrick personally gotten some of his studs from him. man you should see the specimans on his yard i really enjoyed talking to him he seemed honest and the fact that he didn't want to sell any of his dogs really made me feel that he wasn't in it for the money. the only reason he did sell me a pup was because i knew his nephew.
    Did that guy in VA have a dog named HEMI or Mud dog, Or even a $#@! named monkey? I think I talked to a guy in VA once who had some Bolio blood and it was tight...like real tight..just wondering

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