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    Default Mayday Vs Jeep/Redboy

    In the past pole, most people think the Mayday line is not as good as Jeep/Redboy. Why is that? I thought Mayday was a phenomenon dog, and I have seen some of Mayday offspring were amazing. Please drop in your opinion

    What’s good and bad about Mayday line, (is it because recently most mayday lines are inbreed, so majority of offspring are not very smart? )

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    I myself like mayday dogs I think the reason for alot of them being stupid when shadow boxing it is there schooling some are late starters some are not and if you cross them with the right stuff u will get good results the jeep/redboy is always better it is a great cross for the mayday line just my opinion cross the jeep/redboy with some frisco or cross the mayday stuff with the frisco and you will get monsters for sure.

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    Bump Intersting Get Things Going Around Here

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    My vary limeted understanding of this subject is that this argument boils down to Percentages Vs Ability. The percentages of good dogs coming from Jeep/Redboy are said to be vary high but thay arnt known to throw a high percentage of extreamly rough dogs. The Mayday dogs tend to throw lower percentages of good dogs but the good ones come with a ton of ability. I know SD_Dogger runs a combonation of both. He should be able to add to this thread.Also the Mayday dogs tend to run larger than most lines and most doggers like a smaler bulldog

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    Bg Thanks Man That All I Was Looking For Start Some Dog Talk Got Alil Of Both Or Had Some Some Worked Some Didnt Looking Forward To Cross The Two..

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    good post Big Game

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    From what I was told, Alot of folks in the south were kinda skepticle about adding that size to their stock. For them to understand that more was to be expecyted than just the size and more , they took the chance and crossed well with that RBJ and many others that would make producers that make producers
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutthroat View Post
    From what I was told, Alot of folks in the south were kinda skepticle about adding that size to their stock. For them to understand that more was to be expecyted than just the size and more of the barnstorming type destroyer, they took the chance and crossed well with that RBJ and many others that would make producers that make producers

    you talkiong about mayday dog when it comes to size..

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    Me I would take a well bred mayday dog over a jeep/redboy dog any day, for several reasons. 1) I have a extra respect for a catchweight dog thats game bred, IMO thats a true throw back dog. 2)I also think that is a more pure strain of blood.3) Everybody and there momma got a jeep/redboy dog in the states, I might be wrong but I think alot of mayday dogs went else where besides the states. 4) consistantcy(sp), I aint never seen a mayday dog that wasn't buck skin/red. I'm not saying there not out there but you don't see a hugh varitiy in color or size like jeep/redboy dogs.5) I like a pure family of dogs best, I would rather do the crossing (if any) to my liking. For you that caught what I said about consistantcy, I really don't care about what color a dog is, but if we are speaking about genetics than that has a thing or two to do with breeding if you know what your breeding for.

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    Good Points Mac. Could you explaine A Good catchwaight dog being a throwback in youre opinion in more detale please.

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    the mayday dogs came from one of the all time great crosses. the jocko dogs were rough and doing OK, but the percentages were not high. the redboy dogs were equipped to go all night but was seldom enough left to come out again. this cross put some serious dogs on the ground. they would end up trading all night, til the next guy could not or would not trade anymore. the addition of the bolio (hollingsworth) dogs had a rough and intense dog that could find his spots with brains not braun, but used braun when needed. excellent line of dogs...
    same with the jeep dogs...they were rough and good and the red boy added the intensity and the desire. another excellent line of dogs..
    both lines faced the same issues. they were popular and they were winning. then the peddlers started breeding the papers and not the dogs and they both have taken hits...the jeep/redboy dogs are a little more watered down now, mostly from time and tons of breedings. the mayday dogs are not so far behind, but heading that way....
    the mayday generally cost more, for no more reason than someone is willing to pay it. the jeep/redboy dogs are abundant, hell, in the south you can throw a rock and hit a redboy/jeep dog...
    either line works well...most of the dogs can't read their paperwork anyway...s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Game View Post
    Good Points Mac. Could you explaine A Good catchwaight dog being a throwback in youre opinion in more detale please.
    (this is speculation do to the fact that I wasn't there) but, imo I say that cause back when the bulldogs where used in bear baiting and bull baiting they where bred a little bigger to take more punishment. They had to have some type of athletism to move in and out so they where bigger but also well proportion. Not till they outlawed the sport is when they found it easier to house and handle smaller bulldogs.

    Now, this is not fact but, a theory formulated by me from articles and common sense.

    Also I guess you can say with the american bullies there breeders blew them out of proportion. LOL!

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    Default Re: Mayday Vs Jeep/Redboy

    So youre talking throwback like 1800's throw back. A throw wayyy back lol

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    Mac, You think them old large dogs may have ben built a lil sumthin like this here. You dont see to many big dogs (80 pound) dogs with correct structure. This big Guy is cold as Ice but he has corect structure for a Large bulldog.
    He is scaterbred all to hell. Crazy thing is he is bred down from about 85 to 90 percent game stock with a toutch of old watchdog blood(Blue Bully) way back in the 6th and some Cheeks dogs back in the 4th gen going back. I have no Idea why he is so damn huge lol His lines are and I $#@! you not are Mccoy/Ofrn/Kingfish/Zebo/eli/Cheeks/Watchdog Lol Now thats what you call scatterd. He is the ultamite non-battle cross more of a cuddle cross lol

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    [quote=Big Game;346481]Mac, You think them old large dogs may have ben built a lil sumthin like this here. You dont see to many big dogs (80 pound) dogs with correct structure. This big Guy is cold as Ice but he has corect structure for a Large bulldog.
    He is scaterbred all to hell. Crazy thing is he is bred down from about 85 to 90 percent game stock with a toutch of old watchdog blood(Blue Bully) way back in the 6th and some Cheeks dogs back in the 4th gen going back. I have no Idea why he is so damn huge lol His lines are and I $#@! you not are Mccoy/Ofrn/Kingfish/Zebo/eli/Cheeks/Watchdog Lol Now thats what you call scatterd. He is the ultamite non-battle cross more of a cuddle cross lol

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    Yeah! Now take that bulldog and add some Texas pete or some louisana hot sauce and you got your self a catch dog. Look at dogs like Colby's pinscher (sp) 72lbs or zeke's big jake 75lbs hell even Maday(not sure of wt.) but those dogs where or are producers and not to shaby themselves. That heavy wt trait is something that pops up sometimes just like the blue trait when not bred for. Look at Wildsides Isis, she was the dam of a couple of good dogs and her self was white and blue and she was straight from game bred stock and that gene popped up. Now I would never breed for any of the above traits but if they popped up I would take the good with the bad and hope the good out weighed the bad.

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    so yo guys think the madday stuff has alil more mouth then the jeep/redboy dogs i know both has they share of crusher but wats the concensus

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbull-kid View Post

    What*s good and bad about Mayday line, (is it because recently most mayday lines are inbreed, so majority of offspring are not very smart? )

    Inbreeding and line breeding are actually greatly misunderstood. When done carefully with phenomenal dogs inbreeding and line breeding tightens up and accentuates their positive traits - making a dog that shows the best the line has to offer.

    Where problems come in with this is when people breed dogs with no so great traits - line breeding and inbreeding can also bring those traits out. So you have to carefully choose a good solid dog, always be watching to see if it starts swinging towards accenting the negative traits of the line, and breed carefully and selectively. Inbreeding and line breeding can actually produce amazing dogs if a smart person is doing it.

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    Default Re: Mayday Vs Jeep/Redboy

    Quote Originally Posted by pitbull-kid View Post
    In the past pole, most people think the Mayday line is not as good as Jeep/Redboy. Why is that? I thought Mayday was a phenomenon dog, and I have seen some of Mayday offspring were amazing. Please drop in your opinion

    What’s good and bad about Mayday line, (is it because recently most mayday lines are inbreed, so majority of offspring are not very smart? )
    I live in South America and here you find lots of Mayday dogs in my experience I saw some good and some bad..saw Ch.Luiguie(Mayday x Xuxa)a good dog,,saw Ch.Happy(my favorite Mayday dog) I can tell that I saw lots not too smart and with zero mouth 5yrs ago I have a yard full of them and I can tell you that the best I feed came from a Mayday/Jeep/Redboy cross.

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    Default Re: Mayday Vs Jeep/Redboy

    i enjoy celery and carrots!

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    Any body have mayday / redboy stuff?
    and who do you consider the best Jeep dogs?

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