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    Quote Originally Posted by realonebulldog
    [Is that really a pure black dog? Btw. I think Chinaman wasnt a black dog....he was a dark brindle .....cant load that pic...this pic is really big and you can look very close.
    Chinaman was dark brindle yes, but we're talking about Zebo.


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    Oh, it works ...what a beauty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by realonebulldog
    Oh, it works ...what a beauty!
    I have this pic, great condition to one of the greatests dogs ever born...

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    I was told by TG that their is really no such thing as a solid black Pit Bull that even if it looks totally black it usually has some chocolate mixed in like you see in the Chinaman pic. IS this True?

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    Quote Originally Posted by realonebulldog
    Oh, it works ...what a beauty!
    Thats Zebo....cant help it he dont look pure black to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestercopperpot
    I was told by TG that their is really no such thing as a solid black Pit Bull that even if it looks totally black it usually has some chocolate mixed in like you see in the Chinaman pic. IS this True?
    Take a look at a dog called Jager (type his name into the search box)I think he is all black

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestercopperpot
    I was told by TG that their is really no such thing as a solid black Pit Bull that even if it looks totally black it usually has some chocolate mixed in like you see in the Chinaman pic. IS this True?
    of course there are solid black bulldogs i got about 15 on my yard right now.black as the sole of my boot no other color present on them or mixed through the black.hell thats how you get that blue color all that is is a dilution of black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Timer
    of course there are solid black bulldogs i got about 15 on my yard right now.black as the sole of my boot no other color present on them or mixed through the black.hell thats how you get that blue color all that is is a dilution of black.
    Old Timer what was more common in the good ole days red, brindle or buckskin stuff or black dogs.
    If I I consider the really old school I find virtually no black dogs. I see brindle, brindle-white, white ,buckskin, yellow,red-red nose. For example colbys Pinscher, chBilly Sunday, Centipede, Goldie, Galvins Pup ,corvinos shorty or Dugans Pat or colbys Twister and so on....black was rare and if there was a black dog...you could hear it in the name for example Tudors blackie or Tudors black Demon. Later you saw more black and it looked like they came with the Boudreux stuff....only such a thing what I have observed. What do you think about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestercopperpot
    I was told by TG that their is really no such thing as a solid black Pit Bull that even if it looks totally black it usually has some chocolate mixed in like you see in the Chinaman pic. IS this True?
    I got a black pup from TG and around 95% of the time it looks all black except when it is in the bright sun, u can see a redish gleam. Seems normal to me, maybe thats what he is talkin about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realonebulldog
    Old Timer what was more common in the good ole days red, brindle or buckskin stuff or black dogs.
    If I I consider the really old school I find virtually no black dogs. I see brindle, brindle-white, white ,buckskin, yellow,red-red nose. For example colbys Pinscher, chBilly Sunday, Centipede, Goldie, Galvins Pup ,corvinos shorty or Dugans Pat or colbys Twister and so on....black was rare and if there was a black dog...you could hear it in the name for example Tudors blackie or Tudors black Demon. Later you saw more black and it looked like they came with the Boudreux stuff....only such a thing what I have observed. What do you think about that
    well if we are going back to when i was a boy it was most common to see brindle and buckskin dogs a lot.brindle more so than anything else.but what was also pretty common were pied dogs you would see a lot of them running around.but black was always around since as long as i could remember.but you are correct in the fact that you didn't see a whole lot of blacks untill the Boudreaux line came about then blacks came into the for front for a while and thats when other lines started throwing more and more black dogs because somewhere along the line there was some Boudreaux in there.

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    That is called "seal". Black with usually a red tint. It also happens with other colors, besides black.

    I have never heard that, and I can't understand why he would say that. Perhaps, all dogs have a few mutations, to where their is a slight tint of other color in the coat, but for all logical sakes and purposes....they are black. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14rock
    That is called "seal". Black with usually a red tint. It also happens with other colors, besides black.

    I have never heard that, and I can't understand why he would say that. Perhaps, all dogs have a few mutations, to where their is a slight tint of other color in the coat, but for all logical sakes and purposes....they are black. LOL
    I've heard people say there are no 100% white dogs either.I have never seen one but I cant say for sure they dont exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Timer
    well if we are going back to when i was a boy it was most common to see brindle and buckskin dogs a lot.brindle more so than anything else.but what was also pretty common were pied dogs you would see a lot of them running around.but black was always around since as long as i could remember.but you are correct in the fact that you didn't see a whole lot of blacks untill the Boudreaux line came about then blacks came into the for front for a while and thats when other lines started throwing more and more black dogs because somewhere along the line there was some Boudreaux in there.
    Thank you for your time. You confirm my Therorie. Red gene show the origin. Small red (brindle, buckskin, red) dogs you knew as a child.
    The further you tear away in time the more clearly the roots become visible. Iam sure wen your Father was a child only red Bulldogs( brindle buckskin red maybe with some white) were really recognised because different colours were not known in this business. The white material was mixed very early into the Bulldoglines. I believe it comes from a white mastiff , a pure working line (like the Bully-Kuta known from Persien). You find this white in every dog with Bulldogblood (AB; Boxer, English Bulldog, Bullterier etc.) This white material was maybe the first reason for the fact that the small Bulldog became heavier .However, of course everything only Speculationen but Investigate with the help of logic is not forbade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14rock
    That is called "seal". Black with usually a red tint. It also happens with other colors, besides black.

    I have never heard that, and I can't understand why he would say that. Perhaps, all dogs have a few mutations, to where their is a slight tint of other color in the coat, but for all logical sakes and purposes....they are black. LOL
    I was surprised to hear it myself. I was down in NC visiting Tom's yard and noticed on El Negro that he had the red tint in the sun light as Big Rod said. I asked Tom if that would be considered brindle and he said "No that's as black as they get". I saw a couple of El Negro's litters and they all had the exact same chocolate color in their coat. I thought it sounded strange myself but figured he obviously knows a lot more than I do. Not that this is news but his black does come from Boudreaux dogs and there was not a dog on his yard that was solid black they all had very similar color to the Chinaman pic. He was probably just refering to dog's on his yard and I took it to mean ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realonebulldog
    Thank you for your time. You confirm my Therorie. Red gene show the origin. Small red (brindle, buckskin, red) dogs you knew as a child.
    The further you tear away in time the more clearly the roots become visible. Iam sure wen your Father was a child only red Bulldogs( brindle buckskin red maybe with some white) were really recognised because different colours were not known in this business. The white material was mixed very early into the Bulldoglines. I believe it comes from a white mastiff , a pure working line (like the Bully-Kuta known from Persien). You find this white in every dog with Bulldogblood (AB; Boxer, English Bulldog, Bullterier etc.) This white material was maybe the first reason for the fact that the small Bulldog became heavier .However, of course everything only Speculationen but Investigate with the help of logic is not forbade.
    oh anytime.yeah those were the most common to see.now as far as when my father was a boy i can't speak for that.he never brought up color or anything like that.but i do know he himself prefered a brindle dog.but most people back then through the 60's i would say always did prefer a brindle dog for some reason.now whether they would admit it or not was another story they never bred for color or even chose a dog by color but a lot of them if you asked them always said well i like a brindle dog.don't know why for sure but i noticed that along my journies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Timer
    oh anytime.yeah those were the most common to see.now as far as when my father was a boy i can't speak for that.he never brought up color or anything like that.but i do know he himself prefered a brindle dog.but most people back then through the 60's i would say always did prefer a brindle dog for some reason.now whether they would admit it or not was another story they never bred for color or even chose a dog by color but a lot of them if you asked them always said well i like a brindle dog.don't know why for sure but i noticed that along my journies.
    My grandfather (R.I.P.) always said that "The dark dogs tend to be best performers than the others, when you want a performance dog take the darker one from the litter... when you look for a producer take a red nosed" He mentioned that he learn this from his father in Germany, before the '40.
    Perhaps, I believe that you cannot trust in colors... but it makes some sense for me, red nose dogs were results from many generations inbreeding in the past... taking one of them you could get more probability to produce consistent desirable skills to put in your own dogs. I don't know much more about this because my father don't talk too much, he teached me some few things and told me "The time changed... breed your dogs based only in performance".

    It's all I know by family histories... is this right?

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    Thanks for reforce with articles what I said, Lockjaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloesredboy
    I've heard people say there are no 100% white dogs either.I have never seen one but I cant say for sure they dont exist.
    I think I'll have to agree with you. My white dog has only one spot of red on him about the size of your pinky tip and he came from two white dogs. The sire had one spot of black on his shoulder that was barely noticeable, and the mother had small red spots on her stomach. Even with breeding these two almost white dogs, I've never seen anything pure white, they always have at least one spot of color. Of course if there ever was a solid white one, it would probably be deaf as most pure white animals are.

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    To end this question... yes, there's 100% white dogs... but the nose and eyes, not

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