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    Smile Old Family Yellow John Bloodline

    I am looking for the Old Family of Yellow John Bloodline. If you know of anyone please contact

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    Two diffrent bloodlines your asking for, its not "Old Family Yellow John" there is a

    OFRN which usually consists of Hemphill, Wilder, Lightner, etc. There are many strains of OFRN coming off that blood, including Norrods, Sarona, and a bunch of Amstaff stuff.

    Yellow John is an inbred Redboy dog. The result of breeding Redboy to Cleo and producing "Cat". Redboys direct daughter Cat was bred back to Redboy to produce Marlowes Red Feather. Red Feather was then, again bred back to Redboy to produce Yellow John. Making him carry 87.5% of Redboys blood. Also note, the one outcross in the pedigree in Cleo, is not too much of an outcross considering she goes back to a bit of the same blood that influenced Redboy in Colby's Dime. Really amazing he performed as he did, being so inbred. Redboy is also 75% inbred around his Father, "Teals Jeff". When you consider how tight these animals are bred, and worked as they did, its a phenomenal thing-these dogs were bred to produce, performance was probably not expected much out of these breedings-hell of a bonus. Of course, there are always those who will deny that is the way Redboy is bred as well.

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    Smile Re: Old Family Yellow John Bloodline

    I would like to know how can I find a top and bottom Yellow John without any out cross breeding only Yellow. If any still remain top and bottom without any redboy crossing.
    Quote Originally Posted by 14rock
    Two diffrent bloodlines your asking for, its not "Old Family Yellow John" there is a
    OFRN which usually consists of Hemphill, Wilder, Lightner, etc. There are many strains of OFRN coming off that blood, including Norrods, Sarona, and a bunch of Amstaff stuff.
    Yellow John is an inbred Redboy dog. The result of breeding Redboy to Cleo and producing "Cat". Redboys direct daughter Cat was bred back to Redboy to produce Marlowes Red Feather. Red Feather was then, again bred back to Redboy to produce Yellow John. Making him carry 87.5% of Redboys blood. Also note, the one outcross in the pedigree in Cleo, is not too much of an outcross considering she goes back to a bit of the same blood that influenced Redboy in Colby's Dime. Really amazing he performed as he did, being so inbred. Redboy is also 75% inbred around his Father, "Teals Jeff". When you consider how tight these animals are bred, and worked as they did, its a phenomenal thing-these dogs were bred to produce, performance was probably not expected much out of these breedings-hell of a bonus. Of course, there are always those who will deny that is the way Redboy is bred as well.
    Last edited by tonyheyward; 01-28-2007 at 08:32 PM.

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    Default Re: Old Family Yellow John Bloodline

    Quote Originally Posted by tonyheyward
    I would like to know how can I find a top and bottom Yellow John without any out cross breeding only Yellow. If any still remain top and bottom without any redboy crossing.
    Yellow John IS a redboy dog. Yellow is just a strain/branch off of redboy. So what im guessing you are looking for is a bulldog line bred or inbred yellow boy? Is that what you mean?

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    Big Rod

    I want the old Yellow bloodline before it was cross to redboy. I want the 1990 Yellow John before any redboy crossing of any kind strictly Yellow.

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    Default Re: Old Family Yellow John Bloodline

    Quote Originally Posted by tonyheyward
    Big Rod

    I want the old Yellow bloodline before it was cross to redboy. I want the 1990 Yellow John before any redboy crossing of any kind strictly Yellow.
    Umm, but, what they're saying is ... Yellow John IS a Redboy dog ... as in, this is his ped and it's TIGHT REDBOY.

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...php?dog_id=388

    Are you thinking of a different dog?

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    You are again confused, as I stated, Yellow John is a very inbred Redboy dog. He is 87.5% Redboy, 50% of which comes through him being a direct son of Redboy. There is no Yellow John without Redboy. I dont know how I can make it any more clear then anyone else has? Sorry.

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    I am lost. Here is what I want. A cold beer and something for a head ache.

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    Default Re: Old Family Yellow John Bloodline

    Quote Originally Posted by 14rock
    Really amazing he performed as he did, being so inbred. Redboy is also 75% inbred around his Father, "Teals Jeff". When you consider how tight these animals are bred, and worked as they did, its a phenomenal thing-these dogs were bred to produce, performance was probably not expected much out of these breedings-hell of a bonus. Of course, there are always those who will deny that is the way Redboy is bred as well.
    The reason they performed and produced well as inbred as they may seem would probably be because Teal's Jeff was not extremely inbred (about 15% inbred to be a little more accurate) himself making Red Boy only about 29% inbred (as a genetic whole). Yellow John was actually only around 52-53% inbred, although he was triple bred off of a double bred dog.

    For example, Stevens' Rum was 87.5% (89.14% according to Wright's Coefficient of Relation) Tripple Ott Red, a belly brother of Yellow John. Although she was off of a brother/sister breeding off of a triple bred, triple bred dog (off of a double bred dog), she was technically only around 65% inbred (which is more than extremely inbred, but less than it would seem).

    But I agree, it was either solid breeding plans or a freak of nature either way. ;x
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    Default Re: Old Family Yellow John Bloodline

    Quote Originally Posted by tonyheyward
    Big Rod

    I want the old Yellow bloodline before it was cross to redboy. I want the 1990 Yellow John before any redboy crossing of any kind strictly Yellow.


    Tony, your confused. YELLOW, was a Redboy/Jocko dog. Is what you are looking for a pure tightbred Jocko dog? So YELLOW with no Redboy would be a Jocko dog.

    And if that is the question, I don't know of any pure Jocko dogs. I'm sure some are around I just wouldn't know where or who.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila Magyar
    I am lost. Here is what I want. A cold beer and something for a head ache.
    Here is something to make you think Attila.....I have been looking everywhere and can't find an honest Frisco dog that doesn't have chinaman in it...can you help me?

    Ha ha!

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    Red face Re: Old Family Yellow John Bloodline

    Quote Originally Posted by southeasternpits
    Here is something to make you think Attila.....I have been looking everywhere and can't find an honest Frisco dog that doesn't have chinaman in it...can you help me?

    Ha ha!
    oh I know where you can get one at! Nowhere! Or is it somewhere ! Hell is that possible? what are you talking about! ha ha! LOL there is nothing wrong with being a rookie but damn comprehend what you read. yellow is redboy and you you cannot have yellow if not for redboy! It's just that simple!

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    Cool Re: Old Family Yellow John Bloodline

    Quote Originally Posted by Attila Magyar
    I am lost. Here is what I want. A cold beer and something for a head ache.
    I dont drink but I'll see your beer and rise you two Dr Peppers and a BC head ace power!

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    Talking Re: Old Family Yellow John Bloodline

    While we're on the subject, could anyone here point me in the direction of some Cuda pups? PURE cuda pups, BEFORE they were crossed with all that Mayday and Yellow stuff? Anyone?

    (I kid.)

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