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Hall's Miss Boobs and Boobs

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by F.W.K., Sep 20, 2023.

  1. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    This is so very true. I sort of landed in a good spot. I didn't have to make a lot of the mistakes most make when going it on their own.

    I learned the important things like the collar goes under the neck, thru the ring and buckles with the end of the collar pointing to the left and the buckle pointing to the right. It only took me doing the opposite twice to truly understand the attention to detail that was expected. And the lessons built from there.

    Even down to who I could interact with in the bulldogs.

    At fifteen, I was told you can drink a beer here and there but if we hear of you smoking weed, you are out.

    He went out west with Mr. Mayfield, learned some things and then came back home with different approaches. In turn I learned from Mr. Mayfield by proxy.

    The lessons are out there.

    S





     
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  2. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    I remember some in UK (me included) were going nuts on importing dogs from US, a big money guy in north of England had around 20 dogs bred off imports he bought direct from Ricky Jones.. There was dogs on that yard bred about as close to Shady Lady as you could get I suppose.. He told me RJ smoked weed constant and out of courtesy he took a couple of blasts on what ever it was that Ricky was smoking.. 5 minutes later he tried to stand up and nothing happened, day over! reminds me of a song haha!
     
  3. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I've never smoked any weed but do have a funny along the same lines. We are now in our fifties and this guy Dennis who was about 61 had not smoked weed in 20-25 years.

    The other guys were telling him that today's shit ain't nothing like the shit you smoked way back when. He hit it hard three or four times as it went around.

    A few minutes later he looked like a 'zombie in traction'. We got him up to the table when we started to eat and he had no clue how a fork worked.

    A few weeks later we were together and when they broke out the bag he looked at it like it was a rattlesnake and wanted no parts.

    I grew up with a bunch of old square white dudes and I had to choose between drinking, weed and the teenage lifestyle or being able to do dogs in Possum Hollow. His son chose the teenage lifestyle with the weed and partying. Sometimes I look back and think he was much smarter than me. They came to school on Monday morning talking about the killer party on Saturday night and I just listened thinking about a game scratch at the party I attended.

    Apologize. Drifted off topic.

    Good thread.

    S
     
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  4. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Forgot to mention Norman Hooten wrote a letter in Pit Bull News during early nineties stating Jailhouse was a nice female and how much he liked her, don't believe he was too happy over Bobby Hall selling her to England and pretty sure he even offered to buy her back, it's along time ago now, but it went something like that.
     
  5. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Was glad to have her daughter.The dogs and pups 6 months quarantine at the UK isn't fun at all.Bert we mated to several bitches at the time I was there.Hall's Jeanette one of them bred bitches.Nursed with Jeanette Hall also a litter sired by Bert back to health which were down with parvo.One out of that litter became pretty well-known as my memory serve me right.
     
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  6. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Screenshot_20230922-172508.png Black River's Dempsey - Ch Bert x Sugar was one of those pups we nursed back to health.
     
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  7. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Years ago I owned a little male out of Hall's Joe Ringo, seem to recall bottom side of the pedigree was a Maloney's Bert x Laird's GR CH Jap cross.. It was around same time a lot of people in UK were getting out of the dogs, have to admit I knew little about his pedigree and hardly even gave it much thought, never realised then he was probably the tightest bred GR.CH. Art dog in the country and I never even knew it.. I'm proper thick at times!
     
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  8. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Yes I recall that Bert/Jap pups as one was offered to me short after I received the Jailhouse daughter. Didn't take the pup as I was loaded up with dogs. Bobby was pretty pissed at me that I refused this offer.
     
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  9. I remember he said one of the females had a different color and he wasnt sure what bobby send or maybe I mixed things up
     
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  10. I used the method of conditioning close to or under weight I altered it where I used it only for a week and than brought em up
     
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  11. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    I never had any strategy or system for bringing a dog in on weight (never really had the knowledge or experience back then) most times it was just more work or less work, more feed or less feed and a ton of luck.. In retrospect, I doubt I ever brought a dog that was even 50% as ready as it could have been in better hands.
     
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  12. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    I used to always enjoy my visits with Northern Lad and him telling me endless (funny) stories on the dogs and people who owned them, he had a story about Jailhouse that got me thinking about the separation anxiety factor in trading dogs and even just dogs going to new owners, who for all kinds of reasons maybe never read that dog's mood before expecting it to perform like Chinaman or Tornado.
     
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  13. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Speaking of laughing. I will never forget the evening that Junk Yard's little G hung in a cart wheel above a table somewhere in the mountains , especially when the owner of the house came after him very angrily and G escaped through a lean-to and then through the roof of the home.
     
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  14. che

    che Top Dog


    Once upon a time in lively Turkey, there was this legend of a guy, let's call him Chuckles, known far and wide for his colossal mouth and a confidence level that could put Superman to shame. Chuckles lived by the mantra of 'I don't care, I live for this!' and had a knack for turning life into a grand comedy show.

    One day, during a popular local event, whispers of trouble reached Chuckles' ears. He decided to make a quick and discrete exit, leaving behind his loyal dog, who was apparently less concerned about the rumors. Chuckles jumped into his car faster than a lightning bolt.

    As he zoomed away, folks at the event were left in stitches, imagining Chuckles in his escape act. Chuckles, never one to miss an opportunity for a witty retort, shrugged off the jokes with a smirk, saying, "I ain't scared, I'm just smart! If they catch me, they catch me, but hey, they'll have to catch me first!" And with that, he drove into the sunset, leaving laughter in his wake. The second time he hadn't his car, but they catched him because this time was it reall, his answer was not my show, not my dogs.
     
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  15. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    The stories and folk lore behind the dogs is great entertainment just on it's own, I remember NKK told me that after leaving Bobby Hall, they stayed a few nights at Bob Stevens' place. He was some kind of hyperactive Karate expert who'd go round his house kicking doors off the hinges, then they travelled up to Dixie Line Connection who always treated their guests to great hospitality including bulldog tours around the State.. One history attraction on the Dixie Line tour bus was a visit to the barn where Lonzo schooled out Zebo and Vindicator as young prospects.. Lonzo was long gone and the new house owners must have been clueless over why random people would suddenly park up next to their driveway, take photographs of their barn and then drive off again. The significance of that barn (if it's still standing) probably lost on the owners for all eternity haha!
     
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  16. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    The majority of the game is about the stories it creates and maintains forever. The dogs come and go, but a good story will last several lifetimes.

    There is this guy who taught tons about the dogs got out of the dogs many years ago. He got busted twice and the second time they made the National news, not our local news, but the 7 o'clock news.

    One Howard made a break for it and made it to the tree line. He ran half the night skirting the tree line near the road. Early the next morning he had found a country store and used the pay phone to call his wife to come get him. Before she got there a Wilson County deputy drove by with a well known dog man in the front seat. He pointed at Howard as the deputy drove by, he did a U-turn and Howard was locked up with the rest of them.

    The deputy was trashing them saying if they were smart, they would be in church that Sunday morning, but since they were dumbass/sorry ass dog fighters they were in jail. Howard raised enough noise to get the Wilson County Sheriff to the cell door and the Sheriff asked him why he thought the deputy was so dumb. Howard said if he was so smart he would have searched me before he put me here as he handed the Sheriff a .25cal pistol he had in his back pocket.

    The guy that turned me onto the dogs, the most prominent bulldog seller of our time, making the 7 o'clock news, the guy that put the finger on him after he had gotten away......a CH and a soon to be CH was lost that night. All that and I remember the story about the .25cal pistol.

    Go figure.

    S
     
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  17. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Coming off night shift I started to babble and babbled completely away from where I was going.

    The guy that taught me tons about the dogs got out after the second time they were busted. He would talk about dogs, offer insight and advice but didn't own any at all. After years away from the game we were in a discussion of how things had changed. He said the dogs had not evolved to the point yesterday's methods would still work today and that his methods were still as effective as any other.

    A guy placed a male with him to be worked. This shit is like smoking crack because once he started working the dog he was asked to handle as well. He pretended to reluctantly say YES but I felt like inside he was chomping at the bit.

    We all agreed the dogs were the dogs and nothing really ever changes.

    We met some guys at the end of a dirt road and they told us the 500-600 acres was family land and everyone on the property was family. We drove down a winding dirt road and came up to four to five houses spaced out and we rolled around one of the houses to the spot.

    We turned the corner and the look on his face will never be forgotten. The first thing we saw was 40-50 cars/trucks. The guy parking cars had on an orange vest and glow sticks. Close to one of the houses was a food truck selling cold beer and fish sandwiches. Another trailer was selling T-shirts and dog supplies. It must have been three or four in each car because it looked like 200 people in a bunch of different groups.

    Still with the look of fear, disbelief and over all shock, D, looked at me and said, "I take that back, the dogs have truly evolved into something different".

    S
     
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  18. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    "Still with the look of fear, disbelief and over all shock, D, looked at me and said, "I take that back, the dogs have truly evolved into something different".

    I know that feeling well! Still wake at night sweating over similar situations.. Thanks to all who posted for sharing the stories.
     
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  19. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    That one time when a disagreement flared up between a few annoying rowdies and a man you don't want to get into a fight with, and two figures with the biggest mouths ran away and hid in a shallow ditch for fifteen minutes. The quarrel was resolved through the intervention of an acquaintance of the men, who urged the quarrels to calm down.
    Hands were shaken and fortunately the atmosphere had changed for the better.
    The runaways arrived, soaking wet and covered in mud, chilled and to the amusement of everyone. We once saw a real fight at a dog exhibition of small breeds and lap dogs where two neat-looking older ladies,
    owners of competing show dogs, fighting each other, it was a spectacle and B&W and I almost peed our pants laughing in a shocked crowd.
     
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  20. I used to have a european pig picking stories like this would fly around
     

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