Info on Big Kuntry Kennels

Also, I do not follow you on FB that I'm aware of and I stay away from the groups there. Eli Bolio is my name on FB so feel free to check that out.

 

Who made the title claims... was it the black man or the white man? Because regardless of skin color, claims need to be supported by facts, or they are easily refuted for the lack there of. To claim H. Lee as being glorified, you are really just twisting facts to fit your victimhood narrative, as there are a couple people, right here in this thread, who have called him out and lumped him into the same category as you.

Let's just call it what it is, you are a peddler, who makes false claims trying to promote your stuff as something that it is not. Amd when called to task for it, you spin move and cry racism. You are a joke, your program is a joke, your dogs are junk, and you are your biggest fan, while everyone else calls you for the clown you are, albeit white, black, brown, red, yellow... all races think you are a fake and a liar.

 

Although I believe you have damaged your credibility via your postings, on the other hand I could very well believe that this dog is throwing very good dogs, it is bred out the ass on some great dogs. Lets talk about this Stinker dog. You say it is on its way to ROM status, what winners has it produced? modules.php

 

You wont get answers to this. He hides behind who needs to know, knows. Indicating that this dog is only producing in his mind that's why his clinging to the dog by Robinson, a dog that hasnt set the apbt world alight either. I see the daughter and littermate of that male by Robinson is a champ according to both parties, so st lesst we can conclude theres one champ out of this golden dick.
And by the way I'm black. From Africa, living in Africa, not that my fogs notice it.

 

It was funny seeing him call you a racist white guy lol

 

I got my new pup from a black guy and we talk plenty.Not once has race come up. We talk about the law trying everything they can to get his mentor. they want busts, don't care black or wite.I got plenty to say about some racial shit that is in this next election...but when it come s to dogs race never matters one bit. We re all just guys trying to get good dogs and trying to stay off the radar. Dogs don't give 2 shirts.

 

A few things that should be noted, I never bred to the dog Gilbert bought named Stinker because regardless of Gilbert calling himself a “genetics guy” (btw Gilbert, geneticist is the correct term), that dog has a genetic defect that resulted in the dog being blind. Who wants to breed that? Smh.

Gilbert says I hang titles on dogs, yet he is the one that has Stone Cold labelled as a 3xW (OTC) in HIS “Big Kuntry’s Stone Cold 3xW (OTC), as seen here. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=555621Who lists OTC in peds online? Lol.

Meanwhile, in my listing of the dog, which was updated with the dog’s actual ADBA registered names, I have no titles listed on the dog, as seen here… http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=566237

As far as Gilbert’s nonsense claim of building my program, we have 10 APBTs. Only one, ASC’s Lucky 7, is out of Stone Cold. Truthfully, I would sell him for the right price because the backbone of my program is my Sorrells blood, which is very heavy in 8 of the other dogs. I have one dog that is a combination of Lucky 7 and my Sorrells blood. Why did I keep him? Well, I like catchweight dogs capable of manwork, and he is the biggest APBT I have and he also has many great traits…good drive, good power, good athleticism, good hips, good stamina, & he does very well at protection work…but the Sorrells dogs have always been our core. Anyone that understands genetics at all can clearly see Stone Cold’s influence is only 7.25% of our program, and 92.5% of our gene pool has nothing to do with anything Gilbert produced.

On that note, Gilbert claims to be a “genetics guy” but doesn’t even understand the basics of genetics. He doesn’t know the term geneticist, could not annunciate the term lineage until I corrected him (he use to say “line-age”), doesn’t understand simple dominance/recessive traits (he confuses dominance with allelic frequency and phenotype), does not know how to use a Punnett square (fails to know the difference between predictive probability and resulting frequency), does not understand “gene pool” is a term uses to describe the frequency and diversity of alleles within an ENTIRE POPULATION, not a single dog, and confuses it by calling a prepotent dog or seed dog a “gene pool dog.” Lol. He could not use the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium equation if his life depended upon it because he doesn’t even know what alleles are, much less p, q, r, p(squared), 2pq, q(squared), 2pr, 2qr, or r(squared) stand for. Forget about him ever doing any population genetic calculations on a population distribution of either desirable or undesirable traits. Smh. He only can get off claiming to be a “genetics guy” to someone that has no understanding of genetics.

As to why I ever bred to Stone Cold to begin with…simple, I made a post in 2015-2016 seeking a catch weight class dog that was heavily bred on Mayday. I sought that out because Mayday was a catchweight class dog that was a product of Redboy-Jocko-Patrick and I knew Redboy worked well with both Patrick and Sorrells, which is no surprise as both Patrick and Sorrells have similar roots. He sent me a PM in response to my post. I went to his yard and evaluated his entire yard. Every dog I evaluated that he produced failed my evaluations except Stone Cold, which was a dog he produced by breeding two full-siblings that he purchased from a well established line of Redboy-Jocko-Patrick dogs. He so had a bitch named Wild Thing that he bought that was nice but she was not related to any of his dogs. She seemed nice and we bought her as well. There were no outs in either Stone Cold or Wild Thing from his other dogs, so we paid to have both of them health screened, & proceeded with more evaluations of both dogs. Gilbert was dealing with concerns about dog thieves at the time and agreed to let me keep Stone Cold on my yard for 3-4 months at the time. We bred him twice and paid a stud fee both times. One breeding was to the Wild Thing botch, an ADBA registered APBT and one breeding was to one of our American Sentinels.

Now Gilbert is out there claiming “he gave me the recipe for success,” but truth is I was seeking a very specific thing…a catchweight Mayday bred dog capable of manwork, and he had one. This line was nothing new to our program. I mistakenly trusted him a bit because 7 years earlier he got his first dogs from me out of an excellent breeding I did that was also a product of Redboy-Jocko-Patrick blood, as seen here… http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=267050

If he really was an independent successful breeder that he claims to be, then he would not be using our program as his prop…as the breeding we did with Stone Cold was way back in 2016, but apparently it must be the only breeding ever done that produced any legitimate working dogs…ironically, a bitch that I considered worthy, kept for myself for over two years, bred twice, and then sold.

Plus, he never paid me for a debt for a puppy he got from me on IOU and he let get killed in a yard accident with an adult when it was just a 6-8 month old pup. I gave him 16 months to pay that debt. He kept saying he was “working on it.” Then even after I sold a few dogs for him at no commission to help the guy and after breaking my back and being in the hospital and needed the money, I gave him two more months (18 months in total), and he didn’t pay his debt, so I cut him off. This pissed him off so he withheld paperwork on the breeding I did with Stone Cold x Wild Thing, but after a dog I produced out of that combination was sold and became achieved he spoke to the buyer of her and SOLD the ADBA registration papers on a dog I produced by fraudulently naming himself as the breeder of that dog.

Karma came back to bite him in the ass as when he did that, he verified his acknowledgment that the breeding took place…so now all I had to do was prove ownership of the female at the time of the breeding and birthing of the pups…which was easy to do as I had all that documented. As a result, the ADBA chewed his lying butt out and gave me my registration.

Since the female I sold already had registered offspring by the buyer before everything was completed, they could not change the name of that ONE female, but they did at least change it so I am correctly listed as the breeder of her and her siblings…& my boy, (ASC’s) Robinson’s Lucky 7 is registered correctly. When I got his paperwork, I saw the true registered names on all his ancestors and immediately noticed Gilbert changed the names of many of the dogs to put “BKK” on dogs that were produced and owned by other people. The rightful pedigree can be seen here… http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=825110

I saw a pattern of deception for self promote where he change the information on various dogs, so was not surprised he then created his own registry…as doing so would allow him to manipulate things however he wishes…or withhold registrations should he wish to do so…as that has apparently happened to several others as well.

The guy is a loser that does not evaluate his dogs, but is a self promoting, dishonest, braggart that peddles and harasses anyone that questions him. If I could go back in time I would tell myself to stay away from that troll.

 

The mention of my race wasnt intended for you despite me quoting your response. It was to clarify to the gent making himself out to be a victim.because of race. The first part of my response was a response to your statement I quoted. Didnt mean to cause confusion

 

A peddler's income is threatened as soon as he is rightly or wrongly criticized for his actions. If necessary, he will defend his actions with lies and half-truths or at best the truth. In most cases it is mainly and above all about money, nothing more or less.The conflict of the two gentlemen described above is like a bad soap opera, if I were them I would leave each other alone because it does not benefit either way you turn it or turn it.Breed good dogs honest and uncomplicated. Good Luck.

 

I see loads of people criticize others and lie and slander others constantly. how do you know if someone is being rightly criticized.

 

Someone is singing out of tune everyone says you can't sing that's fair criticism LOL

 

That is why I provided proof. I have no desire to entertain any of this. I prefer our reputation to not be built off rhetoric but instead simply prefer to work the dogs and let their performance speak.

 

All good, my friend.

 

I guess you haven't noticed the only people who are complaining are the ones who don't have it. The ones who have the blood definitely a representing even H Lee Robinson. You can't deny the blood even if you don't like the breeder. It is what it is

 

You are a reverse honky just like Justin AKA TripleJ. You youtube fuck bois are the same! I called you both out, I'll come to any spot you want. PM me boi

 

Dont know you so I cant not like you. But theres no one that's credible speaking up for the dogs off your stud.
You on here hyping them but cant name any known dogs that got it done. Those that need to know , know doesnt cover a hyped dog. But as long as you happy with your dog that's all good. A man must stand behind what his feeding.

 

Yes you did call both out but you giving way more energy this way. You stay out there long enough you'll run into a BKK hound trust me

 

Bro I'm not hyping anything up. Matter of fact I just now found out about this forum and y'all are talking about my dog. The haters hype Stone Cold up more than anything. It's like the Dallas cowboys. It's not the fans who hyped the cowboys. It's the haters who hyped the cowboys. If you have a problem with it look in the mirror.