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McGee & Johnston's Apostle

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by olddog, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. ohav4

    ohav4 Big Dog

    Thanks man. It took us 6 years to acquire him as a pup. We heard he was throwing that CRUNCH as well so that's what we are tryna add to our program. We're thinking about doin this one in the near future.
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=562040
    P.S. before anyone starts talking s*** about (Breeding pups) we are keeping the whole litter none will be for sale. We just wanna see how that Panther blood is gonna click with our Eli female. She's producing heat so hopefully it will work out how we expect it to
     
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  2. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    That is a bunch of shit. ..what about Angus??
     
  3. Splash

    Splash Pup

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    slow drinker or guzzler...she'd be there when you woke up...I promise.
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=283460 image.jpeg
     
  4. Splash

    Splash Pup

  5. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    Yes yes yes
     
  6. BOTP Kennels

    BOTP Kennels Big Dog

    Fat bill said "panther was the hardest biting dog to ever live"
     
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  7. BOTP Kennels

    BOTP Kennels Big Dog

    I should say a good friend told fat bill said
     
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  8. Misfit28

    Misfit28 Pup

    I used to know the fella up in Maine that had Apostle for a while. He also had some Mtn. Man Homer blood through the Strickland dogs. I had some of that blood a while ago also. Last I heard from him, he was getting out of the dogs.
     
  9. durock drake

    durock drake Big Dog

    What part of ga you call home? I'm close to athens.spend time in rome area too
     
  10. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    Angus been dead a long ass time
     
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  11. Forever-So REAL

    Forever-So REAL Quintuple Grand Champion

    McGEE'S PANTHER
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    Barney Fife purchased a female pup from a Davis' Midnight Cowboy X Hand's Gr. Ch. Candy breeding and named her Sea Train, after the famous rock band. While still a puppy, Sea Train was sold to STP who raised her to maturity.

    At the time Barney Fife was breeding Zebo dogs, as Zebo was showing exceptional pit dogs, when STP phone to ask who he should breed Sea Train to. It was no surprise that Zebo was recommended as a stud. Tar Heel Matt purchased a pup named Margie, who whelped Panther.

    During her younger years, Margie whelped two litters sired by Tar Hill Matt's Monzon, who had won two matches. Panther was whelped in the 2nd litter. Monzon was sired by Lonzo's Mike, who too was a 2X winner. His dam was also a 2X winner named Rick's Thistle, who was Big Boy and Bullyson breeding.

    Tar Hill Matt had some good dogs from the first breeding of Monzon and Margie, so he repeated the breeding and produced several more pit wilnners. Some of these were Willie, Billy (1XW), Bonnie (1XW), Jimmy (who stopped Ch. Spike), Carlos (1XW, 1XL) and Monzon, Jr. Tar Heel Matt contacted Barney Fife to condition Panther and put his weight out at 55lbs., when Boss Hog picked it up. Boss Hog came with a large boned, Red Boy bred dog, and weighed in exactly at 55lbs., Panther weighed in 2lbs. light. Panther came out fast trying for the shoulders, but the white dog was adept at holding out Panther. The patern continued with Panther trying, but unable to get any good holds. At the twenty minute mark, Panther hit the front end and the white dog was in trouble. By the 40 minute mark, Panther was putting the finishing touches on the white dog, who took the 10 count in his corner making Panther the winner in 40 minutes. For reasons unknown, Panther's weight was never picked up again for almost two years.

    In the mean time, Panther demolished several roll opponents with such speed, that his formidable reputation grew even more. At the age of six, Matt retired Panther and bred him to several of his bitches. After several years Panther was sold to Rich Cupo, where he died shortly after.

    Panther sired 1 Grand Champion, 1 registered Champion, and many other winners. The best of Panther's offspring retained the signature trade mark of this strain. They would start fast and if a dog could not avoid their charge, the Panther dogs would win in short order.
     
  12. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    This is a dog that I spoke to tarheel about personally, as I also have a dog named Angus..I was not trying to say the dog is alive..but he produced and was one of this fellas favorites..that is why he bred heavily on him.
     
  13. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    He produced. But that line of dogs hasn't been able to stand up unfortunately. Its not competitive today
     
  14. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Like most dogs that are inbred on the purpose of breeding them is no longer to perform, yet produce or sell puppies.

    Lots of Panther bred dogs were bought to re-create Panther. Pipe dreams no doubt.

    They bred the Loca bitch to Two Eyes. My buddy had a female out of the litter that was a straight match dog and should have been matched. When bred to Kasai I ended up with Chloe and Cornbread. I kick myself in the to this day for selling Cornbread. Chloe won one in :59 and for the record quit the next time out in :29. (Lots of details but no need to cry over spilled milk)

    Both could shut it down. The shot of Panther blood did not hurt. At the time there was a heavy Panther bred dog in West Virginia named Coreiga. He was getting it done up there.

    But like all pure dogs bred down from a great dog from thirty plus years ago, things fade. The guy that bred the great dog no longer has influence on the breeding thirty years later. Change the intent and the dogs change.

    The greats bred for game dogs that happened to be able to bite. The next group breeds for dogs that can bite and it becomes a slippery slope.

    The 1/4 out Panther dogs are still viable, get heavier than that and I am guessing percentages fade.

    Still a big part of the history.

    Scptt
     
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  15. preme

    preme CH Dog

    definitely a big part and matts a stand up guy
     

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