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Weighted collars and vests.

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Box Bulldog, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    I was just wondering your guys thoughts on weighted collars and vests? Would like to know who has decent ones for sale. How much weight to start of with on a 60lb dog that in pretty decent shape. Would just like to know as much as possible about using them.
     
  2. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I use one. My collar is homemade. I bought a piece of heavy gage chain, 1/2". I measured out 2 pounds worth. I cut the sleeve out of an old sweatshirt and snaked the chain thru. My thought process is even though it spins some it is always equally distributed. I use it on long walks mostly. When the dog lifts his head up and down to sniff as he walks there is work being done.

    Stillwater Kennels sells a nice one. It has a Velcro strap and the collar is lead filled. I am not sure of what weights are available.

    I would stay low. I use a 2lb. collar on just about all my dogs. I have one that is in low 50's and I use a 3lb. collar for him.
     
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  3. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    I will make one like you did. That's smart never thought about the collar shifting and weight not being equally distributed. Have you ever used a weighted vest? The reason I am asking is I am trying to make the best of my small window walking/conditioning time have a lot of projects on the go and work more than I would like to sometimes.
     
  4. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I have never used a vest. I understand maximizing your time. I am in the same boat. I'm building a barn, restroring a 69 Chevrolet truck, working a bunch of dogs and still have to fit in a 50 hour work week. So I understand maximizing.

    It only works so far. There is still benefit in the 'time'. Loading him up early to shorten the length works but every now and then he needs the load to be lightenend and worked longer. On the days when time is not my friend I use the carpet mill. I can work one in shot order and that cuts my walk time down a lot.

    S
     
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  5. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    What are your thoughts on walking a short distances maybe a mile with 2lb collar and perhaps 5lb vest on a 60lb dog then the next day no weight and a longer walk/run/sprints? Since I admire your opinion and knowledge of the dogs I would like to hear what you think? I am just trying to get a decent conditioning program together that works for me. I got 46 Ford powered by a SBC I got to get finished you know how it is.
     
  6. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Mine is a 69 short bed/fleetside 4WD. 6"lift/35's 383ci/350/205. Body off resto/mod. Block came back a couple of weeks ago. Inside and engine bay painted. The rest in primer. Off and on for 6 plus years. Money and time, time and money. LOL

    I'm not sure on both of them at the same time. Try it and see. It is really hard to hurt a dog hand walking him. It will be hard to get a base line of what he needs with no weight added. You will have to create a starting point. I would say start with one or the other and walk him til you thinks he needs a break and drop the weight and head home. No weight the next day. The third day go with both. When he tires drop the weight and head home. You will then have general idea of what he needs to get worked with each. Then go from there.

    Never worry about a measured distance. Use time. (Just numbers not meaning real times). Today ten minutes may be enough. Tomorrow he may be done at 8 minutes for what ever reason. Bad recovery, not being fed right, just not into it. Don't force the extra time today just because he did it yesterday. Walk/work him til he is tired every time you work him. Every now and then there will be some regression from day to day but over the weeks and months you will see gradual improvements.

    If you have the room and the right environment get a harness and pull some weight. I put a length of chain equal to about 20%-25% of the dog's bodyweight on two traces and we walk. I use a bean field. I make a lap with the weight and a lap with out. It takes about 15 minutes or so to make a lap. It just happens to work out to 15 with weight/15 without.
     
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  7. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    Thanks Slim for the advice I will try something like that out. And good luck on your truck. I use to play in mud lots with full size trucks on super swampers but I got sick of breaking axles and u joints on a regular basis. Now I run a tiny suzuki samurai with a 10'' lift 35s and toyota axles and she never breaks anything. I also understand how a project turns into a huge amount of work. I bought a 1963 comet with the plan of dropping in a 347 sbf and driving it. One thing led to another I gutted it and turned it into a straight axle gasser looks wild but still have to do body work which I dont like doing. I also have a 1923 T bucket with a 400sbc Saginaw 4spd thats a pretty wild ride but its a death trap.
     
  8. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I have had a few death traps as well. I had an '81 Z28 once that had been a flood victim. The wiring was a constant nightmare. I was a drinker back then that added to my creativity. I polished up a piece of brushed stainless, cut out a section where the radio and heater controls went, started boring holes and adding toggle switches. When I got thru everything on that car was wired to that panel. It had to be powered up like a jet airplane. Flip them all up to go and all down when I shut it down. All with the same spool of red wire. The next guy played hell going behind me to fix anything. The coolest part was the only thing left stock was the cigarette lighter. If you mashed that the car would crank. It was a fire looking for a good place to start.

    S
     
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  9. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    I got my weighted collar from O'Brien's. Some say the rule of thumb to determine the weight of collar you should use is 1% of the dog's body weight. With that said, I have a 5lb collar for my 60lb male and it works great!
     
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  10. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    Thanks.
     
  11. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Vicki are you sure that percentage of 10% to a 60lbs dog is 5lbs?.
     
  12. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    must of meant around 10%.
     
  13. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    My standard is 5% of a dogs body weight give or take around 1/2-1/4 lbs.
     
  14. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    Okay. I will try a 3 lb collar on 60lb dog to start.
     
  15. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Actually you should start with a 1 pound collar and work your way up gradually.

    Although 5% body weight is my standard I always start with a lower weight first and gradually work it up to that 5% standard of body weight.
     
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  16. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    How long do you think before upping weight? I have never used one before but I want to do it right.
     
  17. JimAm*dam

    JimAm*dam Pup

  18. italianpit

    italianpit Big Dog

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    This is mine. 5cm collar with Six pocket each One to a 340g weight. I put The collar on My dog every morning from 8 am till 13pm. She spend all morning every morning to play with my cane corso (italian mastiff), Hunt mice and lizard plus elastic springpole. The rest of day without wheigts and only handwalk in The evening.. start with one weight And put on another one every week (6 weith=6weeks).
     
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  19. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    It depends on each individual dog but usually around 2-3 weeks working around 2-3 days per week before increasing the weight so he can get use to that weight load.
     
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  20. raemei

    raemei Pup

    Is the weight meant more to build up muscle, increase stamina or tire the dog out efficiently?
     

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