Pictures of some mutts.

Thanks, He's a good dog. Easy keeper, happy go lucky personality. Will punch that time clock too. Couldn't ask for a better dog. I think every dog I have here down from Geachiman have the best temperaments. Solid dogs all around, physically and mentally.

 

Very nice AGK. All looking nice. I hope you are staying in shap to run the boys away when your daughter grows up. Oh forgot you have a son for that.

 

That boy LOOK like the truth!! I remember you had him up for stud. I was tryin to BUY gyps to hook him up to! Mine was just a pup at the time. At 2.5 some would say she still is. How does his bottom side work ? Had anything straight off his Eli side? You can PM if necessary

 

I also really like the look and build of both geechison and pumpkin. Very nice dogs. A lil direction and I would figure they would make fine catch dogs. Again very nice.


Shotgun
Arkansas

 

Oh they would be turned on to them if we had hogs here in Pa. Thanks for the compliment.

 

Lol he dont just look, he IS the truth. He's about 7 or 8 now and has nothing left to prove other than what can he produce. Lives a very good spoiled life now a days. Adores my daughter, most of my males do it seems.



His bottom side works well from what I'm told, never owned any of it so couldn't tell you first hand but when I first got Cardnal (Geachison) I was offered his mother with him in hopes that I would breed him back to her but I didn't have the space for both of them at the time and didn't really want to take on a dog her age so I declined. T. West probably has some of the blood bred up tighter off the bottom side of that pedigree, never really asked him though as its his top side I focus more on.

 

I love the look of Pantera. That's my kinda pupper! Great looking set of dogs. Filthy Sanchez LOL I got a friend who tries to use that term along with "Daisy Chain" in every conversation! Oh yeah also
Glazed donut. I told him , he's sum kinda pre-vert

 

Lol. I like her look to. She was by far the smartest pup of the bunch. First to do stairs, first and only to climb up a 4' kennel to her freedom at about 9 weeks old. Once she learned it there was no keeping her in with the other pups she had to go on an over hang set up. Was the first to leave the whelping box. Her looks always screamed Eli dog to me. Pantera and Sasha were actually IMO, the ugly ducklings in their litter when they were 2 to 3 months old. Both really have come into themselves though with a little time.
Thanks!

 

Wow the dogs are looking great and the pups are coming on very well. I like the dragon, really reminds me of dilophosaurus (not sure on spelling) from Jurassic Park. I always wanted to get an Alligator Snapping Turtle. Your daughter is a real cutie too. I think you'll have to watch the boys when she's older!

 

I like the way he went! That Midnight Cowboy is what I'm after!! I found some that I'm gonna try to add to what I got. I'll being going the opposite way you seem to have gone. I want to add Boyles to my Eli were as you added Eli to your Boyles. I ain't tryin to be there all day... You KNOW what I'm sayin!!! I got that Earl Tudor thinkin!! Good luck with the pups this coming season and DEATH TO BOYS THAT LIKE OUR DAUGHTERS!!! I got a shottie, .45, .44, and my partner/her uncle has the same!!!

 

AGK,
Any thoughts on adding some
Of the elmo 2 blood to your
Geachiman stock ?

Nmdogs

 

Thanks guys. She is a handful that's for sure. I keep her pretty busy between gymnastics, hip hop dance, baseball, league bowling, hunting etc that she don't have time to be worried about no boys. Lol I'm mean as hell to the little booger pickers than come here looking for her now.

 

I've though about it. Figured I may go that way if I start noticing a lacking in the traits I currently see. I'm not a fan of the Frisco blood but if I was going to feed a Frisco bred dog the Elmo II dogs are what I would most likely use.

 

Hey if it ain't broke don't fix it! Imo
I just asked since bad Clyde has both...
And has very good dogs and is great
To talk to very knowledgeable so I may
Call again to see how things are going
As he hasn't been on here in a while...

Nmdogs

 

Awesome picture, my type of bulldog as he looks complete...
Ive done a little research on the bottem side and like it a bit better that the bottem of gr ch sophias ped, friends of friends had her brother ch serious ans i lokked into the both being bred similar...Both are old eli lines with a similar base from old breeders roberts and luniewski who bred thier line for some time...
Both are bred down from the late Gene Thurmonds great Cracker Jack dog, argubaly the best modern producer from the midnight cowboy line...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [490382] :: WEST S PEPPER JACK geachiesons dam...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [166326] :: LUNIEWSKI'S BEAUTY sophias dam...
The Zebo dogs that luniewski bred were nice if you like the zebo family, I dont care for it much ecspecialy bred tight for so long...
Not a fan of too many pure eli lines but the cracker jack dogs were an exception...

There was a nice bred champion that was bred similar to Geachieson with the same Roberts eli stock on the bottem and some nice dirtymary on the top, but I forgot his name at the moment, if I can recall Ill post the ped...

As far as the bottem, I like it enough to add some but not linebreed on it and I really like the way AGK has taking it back to the dirty mary line, very nice...
Either grandchampions, u turn or the storm type bred dogs would be nice as well, and adding both might add something that the other lacks, ie...frisco vs redboy...
All on paper ofcoarse...

 

I just prefer the Dirty Mary dogs. I'm not big on Frisco dogs or redboy dogs. I wouldn't rule them out though if they were coming from certian people. The Uturn x storm breeding would be great to get something off of if they can manage to save any of them as Storm will kill her whole litter. They're going to try something a bit different this time to try to ensure the survival of a few. I doubt they are going to come off any of those pups that make it.. I know I wouldn't lol.

 

I agree about the dirty mary dogs and not a fan of frisco or redboy dogs either...
If you add u turn you add redboy and not particularly storm herself but that line or cross adds frisco...
Dirty mary as a base in all three (including yours) in the same ped will have a touch of roberts eli, frisco elmo2 and the redboy blood might counter those two...
Thats why I said on paper is because who will know how genes might link up...
I didnt mean a pup off the two, but adding some of both somehow...

 

Uturn will eventually be added into the equation as him and Cardnal (geachison ) are the best 2 males produced by Geachiman. I could have both bred to and or bought U turn. It's his bottom I don't have an interest in so I never bred to him or pursued buying him. Many have wanted me to but I just don't see the need as of right now. It's always an option to me though as I know a few with dogs off uturn. One day maybe, just not right now. Storms a different case as they have a real hard time keeping pups alive with her. I have always felt though, if I need to infuse something new into my dogs, Elmo II would be the way to go but not the only way to go. I was actually going to breed to Otis a few years back but ended up breeding to geachiman instead. BBD got out of the dogs last year to enjoy his twilight years on his chopper. Plenty of his dogs are still around though. My biggest obstacle has been I live way up north and most of these dogs are way down south. That and I don't really do breedings unless I can keep from the breeding and being a city dweller already 3 dogs over the limit to keep here makes things challenging. That will change with in a year if all goes as planned. Things will be much different for me then and will offer much more opportunities for myself and where I want to take my dogs. I'm a patient person and both my kids have been groomed to take the reigns if they so choose when I can no longer do it however that at least 30 years from now hopefully. Lol.

That little girl I posted is the most likely candidate to take over as she is all about the dogs, every aspect of them from birth to death. My son may show interest later on. Time will tell. He has grown up to see the total hold these dogs can have on one's lifestyle and has seen the many struggles I myself have had to endure keeping these dogs and I think it turns him off a little as he likes to do what he wants when he wants. My daughters still very young so she could end up walking away from them too. I'm a recluse by nature so I never viewed being chained to my yard as a hindrance to my lifestyle. They are my lifestyle.

 

Good luck with brother!! I'm in the same boat. A recluse that lives in the city. We can have 4 here tho, not like that makes a big difference... I'm on 2 and a pup, I NEED MORE SPACE!!! My partners are tryin to get me to move to the country. Told em of I can find a place cheaper than what I got, I'm in!!

 

Great incite, as usual!! Boy you like an encyclopedia! Do you ever sleep lol? If you do, I bet you see peds in your dreams! I need more contacts like yourself with historical ped knowledge as well as current. Thank you for your part sharing what you have learned!