Historically

Which historical dogs would you say contributed the most to this breed? Which would you say are the most important to remember?

 

Eli, Redboy, Bolio, and Snooty....just my opinion

 

Three most important Bulldogs are Colby's DIME, Tudor's DIBO and Carver's BLACK WIDOW...
Equally as important as these three INDELIBLE BULLDOGS,are the three MEN behind them...
Most important overlooked factor is the WOMEN behind these MEN and their BULLDOGS...

 

I think you would have to add Fitzwater s Goldie to that list.

 

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [451] :: COLBY'S DIME
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [9] :: TUDOR'S DIBO (3XW)
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [8] :: CARVER'S BLACK WIDOW
good choice for#4 Bamaman...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [55] :: TRAHAN'S RASCAL (6XW)
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [432] :: FITZWATER'S GOLDIE (4XW)
Trahans Rascal could possiblly #5...
These five dogs from mid century dominate alot of modern pedigrees...

Eli,Bolio, Redboy and Art's Missy passed these genes to the future...
These are the more fimilar names, probably cause they were in such great demand...
There is others that carry the blood and some successful families that dont, But behind a majority of todays greats the Dime Dibo cross is most prodominate...

 

Bruce's Jerry

 

Another fine contributer Louis cypher...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [1801] :: BRUCE'S JERRY ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [1484] :: CORVINO'S GIMP
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [1419] :: CORVINO'S SHORTY

 

Elias very well stated I'd say if there not in pedigree I would not have them

 

um I think jeep should be listed

 

Lol go look at Jeep ped and you'll find most of dogs listed!!! Can't talk about Jeep when talking about dogs between 1940-1960's

 

YESSIR! Good sire, even better Grandsire.

 

When I was 16, Jeep and Colby dogs are all I knew also...
What it took me 15 years to learn, Kenitodrake could learn over night...
If you already dont know too much or the sponge isnt too wet...

 

oh its not tht I don't know more than I let on im still learning so yea ..

 

oh yes the Gas house dog is a good one thats going way back to the beging...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [65472] :: THE GAS HOUSE DOG ( A.K.A. MCDONALD'S GRIP )
Pup seems of some signaficance in alot of Colbys peds also, plus pups dam is half sister to the gas house dog.
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [12587] :: GALVIN'S PUP (10XW)
The gas House bitch was probably one of the most important bitches in early history...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [65471] :: THE GAS HOUSE BITCH ( A.K.A SWEENEY'S FLY )
The Bob Tail bitch also played her part...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [16077] :: BOB TAIL BITCH
Turk and Feeleys Jim were in alot of old peds also...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [68388] :: LLOYD'S TURK
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [6640] :: FEELEY'S JIM

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=6424

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=1777

So many Turks. Like Goldie and Gimp.

 

I'm sure there are way more unknown dogs that have contributed to the breed by private dogmen and dogmen not allowed to be part of the "scene," specially in the pre 1970's era.

It is truly amazing that of the excellent dogs and dogmen that are known thru accepted and documented history how many more there actually have been.

 

I agree to a certain extent, but if it was worth while it was usually documented...
I think there alot more contributers to todays dogs than most would like to admit...
Carson I am sorry if you got your dogs from Ziggy, if that is where this stems...

 

Exponentially and other various reasons, of course there are more contributors, admittedly or not.

It stems from factual history, documented or not. It has nothing to do with the time and effort Ziggy has put forth for the breed, despite your indictment.