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scatterbred studs

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by bullyville, May 7, 2013.

  1. Can a dog that has 4 or more different bloodlines "scatterbred" in his first generation make a good stud dog if he has good qualities that you like?
     
  2. ragedog10

    ragedog10 Top Dog

    If those four lines are all proven dogs then give it a try, a lot of people run to tight bred pretty papered dogs with not a single wothy dog in 5gen. Breed Bulldogs not peds. JMO Ole Man
     
  3. bounty

    bounty Big Dog

  4. Epona

    Epona Banned

    The most of our dogs will be based on carver blood, and storys written that people never know when m. carver speaks the truth or not, so maybe all dogs down of that will have some "scatter" in it.

    Breed what is worth to be stuck together when they are proven.
     
  5. So basically best to best? I was thinking maybe concentrating on a few bloodlines and kinda tighting up the gene pool. In other words find a bitch that has maybe a couple of the same bloodlines that's proven and breed them together. I just would like to hear what you guys think or am I totally in left field right now...
     
  6. SteelyDan

    SteelyDan Big Dog

  7. SteelyDan

    SteelyDan Big Dog

  8. ABD456

    ABD456 Big Dog

    There are different believes when it comes to breeding, some believe best to best no matter the pedigree others believe in line-breeding along a family of dogs. Both ways can yields success but in the end it all depends on the quality of your stock and your ability to select which animal stay in your breeding program and which animals are taken out.
     
  9. Epona

    Epona Banned

    It was im doing, best to best what i get, on a lose family or line of dogs breeding what the peds show.

    Dont know if that is the real deal, but worked for me, and i dont trust pedigrees because "the only time a dogman speaks the truth is when he calls another dogman a liar"
     
  10. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    Breed back towards the strongest part of his ped and keep it moving
     
  11. Obviously you mean which bloodlines appear in the pedigree the most...?
     
  12. JP38

    JP38 Pup

    ............
     
  13. JP38

    JP38 Pup

    Or which part of the ped has produced consistently...
     
  14. tigerboy5

    tigerboy5 Big Dog

    Even though the stud is scatter bred untill you breed him you wont know how he will produce. Even if the dog is scatter bred the different bloodline may have certain traits that you want in your program and he may consistantly throw them.
     
  15. jake

    jake Pup

    you're always fighting an uphill battle when you start a program with a dog (whatever it's intended purpose). start with a good bitch. find a bitch with everything you want, then worry about a stud. she's going to contribute more to pups than a stud ever could no matter what is behind him. find a stud to match the bitch, not a bitch to match the stud.
     
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  16. BBT

    BBT Big Dog

    what he said
     
  17. Thanks for the advice fellas...
     
  18. YoungLion

    YoungLion Big Dog

    I used a couple of what some might consider scatterbred back in the day but only proven producers. Some of those studs did not have but one trait I was looking for and that was they produced producers. The studs were not very impressive in any other category and couldn't fight their way out of paper bag if they had to. But they would produce like the ****ens to what ever ***** you bred it to. Next to gameness being able to produce is what I look for when breeding the others can be added as needed but the top two in my opinion are indispensable. However that's my program and worked for me. Ultimately it boils down to what you are willing to feed and how effectively a person culls. Then there is the matter of luck that defies reason, planning, and genetics.
     
  19. best2best

    best2best Big Dog

    Theres only ony way to find out if that dog can produce and thats by breeding to him! If he is wat ur looking for then breed to him b u t if I were u I would look for his sire tjat producded him to breed to first! Jmo
     
  20. SOULDOG

    SOULDOG TEMPLE OF THE DOGS

    Hey btb I think you sent me a p.m. by mistake. And your inbox is full.
     

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