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steroids?!?

Discussion in 'Health & Nutrition' started by gypsyboy, May 22, 2012.

  1. feastodg

    feastodg Big Dog

    Steroids will take a good dog to another level. It works the same way as with humans. I see nothing wrong with it if anyone wants to introduce steroids into their keep when conditioning a dog, and our friends in Mexico don't either.
     
  2. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    True and I won't knock anyone who does use them ,none of my buisness.
     
  3. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Bumping up a old thread is good, a lot better than starting new ones when there are old ones to bump up and refresh.

    As far as steroids, I prefer just natural work. No knock on anyone who uses them though.
     
  4. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    all they do is help to recover after work or after an injury nothing more . they won't make your dog and super dog .
     
  5. JBL

    JBL Big Dog

    They do a lot more than help recovery. They increase red blood cell count helping endurance and testosterone has been proven to increase strength even if muscle mass is not your goal. They also aid with pain tolerance, grit and determination along with increased aggression.

    I work as a bouncer so I'm around people on steroids all the time. You can tell the difference in a guy's personality when they are on a cycle, myself included.
     
  6. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    The problem with bumping up old threads is that the Original poster is either no longer active or banned so responding to a post that asks a question is moot.

    Steroids alone wont make your dog Buff, it takes a lot of hard work and dedication of both the dog and the owner to accomplish that goal.

    In most places steroids are illegal and they cost some money so the majority of people wont just give there dogs steroids for no good reason.
     
  7. JBL

    JBL Big Dog

    True you steroids alone without proper training and nutrition doesn't do much. I find it funny when people think steroids are going to make them into giant monsters overnight.

    I live in the UK where steroids aren't illegal for personal use. My old gym even had a needle deposit box and were available underneath the counter. They also aren't expensive here.
     
  8. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    IT helps your dog recover and performance. EQ and winstrol are both cutting drugs If taking by themselves or you could stack them with Test or deca for a bulking cycle. Go to a weightlifting contest and compete with somebody on the juice and somebody not on the juice BIG DIFFERENCE.
     
  9. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I didn't get one dam thing out of all this ! Bwaaaahhaahhhaaaa
     
  10. olddog

    olddog Big Dog

    Who won ? The man ? or the Juice !!

    Olddog
     
  11. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    I say the juice old dog witch is why I keep away from them plus roid rage lol.
     
  12. The Saint

    The Saint Big Dog

    Steroids are not just for recovery. Anybody who says that either don't know or ignorant. Steroids when applied correctly increase health, muscle, cut, energy, aggression, power and increase endurance.
    There was a kennel in SA that ran Frisco dogs and was virtually unstoppable. They sold out and nobody who got their dogs could consistently repeat their results. Someone who ran close with the kennel and whose opinion I trust said they used roids so perfectly in their keep that it made their dogs appear gamer and rougher than they would be without the roids. Now this is just a story, so don't go sell it as gospel.
    I also spoke with a very successful kennel from Mexico in last year. They have a conditioner that is 2nd to none and he openly admitted that by using roids he was making a dog better. He insisted that he could increase a dogs biting power. I said BS cos that can't be true. Looking at their results I must concede that maybe he does know something about make them bite harder.
    So YES, roids if applied correctly WILL make a dog better.
    I however agree with old dog, did you prove your dog better or your roids better?
    Also, roids affect kidneys, heart, liver etc but almost always impacts a dogs fertility. So when you see a ch or gr ch that can't produce at a young age, you now know why...
     
  13. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Close. It is a recovery agent, nothing more, nothing less. (I will agree steroids alone will trigger some aggression/behavioral changes just like any other drug that alters blood chemistry/bodily functions)

    Steroids will not make any one or any dog stronger. If so I could sit here at my work station, take a handful or pills or a couple of shots and look like the hulk. It simply does not work that way, if so, the entire world would be massive and cut. Same with the billion dollar diet pills out there. The number one sellers are the ones who say "Just take this pill, no diet, no exercise" . People are basically lazy. Steroids the same, they do not work without the work. Period.

    With that said, they will make a person or a dog stronger if they are coupled with work and diet, but mostly the work. To be very simple with a very complex topic it goes like this. If I can only do three sets of ten of an exercise, barely making the last rep, and I am so worn out I can't do it again tomorrow I am at a peak/wall. On steroids I will do that same amount of work, then recover for tomorrow and be able to do it again. Since I am doing more and recovering faster I am getting stronger/massive/etc.etc.

    The steroids simply allow a body to recover so they can do it again sooner. Being able to do it again and again and again is the where the gains in strength/mass/cut come from (work) not the steroids.

    Lots of people use Winstrol V after the show for its recovery properties. It works really well as it was intended.

    Steroids and work and diet will make a dog stronger. In certain situations it will be the difference between winning and losing but it will never make a good dog out of bad one. Just like a good dog, on a good keep, and a good feed plan is really hard to beat. Add steroids and the dog will be able to more work over the same period of time. He will be stronger from all the work. If he is a good dog to begin with then that is a tough thing to compete against.

    Like most subjects in the dogs, the majority of the people using it have no earthly idea what they are doing. The dogs usually end up looking like crap. Then people blame it on the steroids instead of the dumbass owner who gave him the steroids. Along the same mentality as 'guns do not kill people, people kill people'. S
     
  14. Kelticwarrior

    Kelticwarrior Top Dog

    The problem with steroid use in a working dog is that they also promoted the increased production of lactic acid in the body which would make the dog feel fatigued and sore. The dog can access the lactose/lactate part of the increased lactic acid production for energy but the acid part of it will cause the dog to feel fatigued and sore which would be detrimental to the dog's performance in a show. If you've ever worked out hard and experienced the results and fatigue that is induced by lactic acid you'd know what I'm talking about steroids boost the production of lactic acid in the body and you want to minimize that lactic acid as much as possible. If you not familiar with how to use steroids properly rather not use them, I would never.
     
  15. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Great post Slim!
     
  16. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I lifted weights for a long time and the 2 dudes I lifted with used steroids ,I did not.They were stronger than I was.I watched them get stronger with my own 2 eyes.Did it tempt me to take them ? Sure did .Never touched them.Were a normal person would get soar after let's say doing chest well the next day they would be fresh.I would have to wait 4 to 5 days before I could work my chest muscles again ,they could work them again the next day.So don't tell me they don't make you stronger because if they don't you ain't doing it right.
     
  17. The Saint

    The Saint Big Dog

    Slim, you are right. I neglected to say those results will only be forthcoming with work.
    I didn't say you can make a bad dog good, but on roids your results with a dog on roids would have been much better as opposed if they went without it.
    A cur without talent can never be more than that irrespective.
     
  18. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Steroids are referred to as gear or juice. EQ and winstrol are 4 cutting up for competition and test and Dianabol are for getting bigger and bulkier you mix the two together you get bigger and refined. I have been lifting for the last 25 years. Go to a gym or weightlifting competition and try to compete with somebody taking steroids. you cannot compete with them. They make your recover quicker and make you stronger. As far as roid rage it depends on the person and every 3 to 6 months go get a liver scan and on to the dogs it increases strength and stamina too.
     
  19. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    The steroids did not make them stronger. The work made them stronger. The ability to recover and do even more work again and again is why they got stronger. The steroids allowed them to recover in order to get stronger/massive/cut.

    The steroids provide the recovery. The work creates the strength/power/speed/mass/cut.

    People get stronger without steroids by lifting. (dogs too). People (dogs) make larger and faster gains by adding steroids. The steroids is the reason your buddies were fresh the next day and you were not. By your own post they could do the chest the next day and you could not. They recovered through steroids and you recovered by nature/diet.

    The steroids allow them to put the work in day after day. S




    ifted weights for a long time and the 2 dudes I lifted with used steroids ,I did not.They were stronger than I was.I watched them get stronger with my own 2 eyes.Did it tempt me to take them ? Sure did .Never touched them.Were a normal person would get soar after let's say doing chest well the next day they would be fresh.I would have to wait 4 to 5 days before I could work my chest muscles again ,they could work them again the next day.So don't tell me they don't make you stronger because if they don't you ain't doing it right.[/QUOTE]
     
  20. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Yea I'm aware of this slim! I been around them too long not to understand them.You can say it how ever you like my point is steroids will make u stronger if done right or you can say steroids will allow you to get stronger ! but either way it's same results.
     

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