Breed with a purpose & not the papers

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ok this dogs wased at some point these people dont work there dogs fullstop so how can you call it a game dog because you dont fucking know, i give up carry on showing them im done..........................................

 

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to make lots of moneys off show clowns

 

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you just answered your own ? SADLY SELL THESE DOGS FOR $$$$$$$$ a real dogmen to me weather you match race or fucking herd sheep that man will not sell his line for someone to compete against them with their own blood they will cull hard and keep the best then breed best to best among that family of dogs (blood)

 

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I know the answer to my question already, thats why I asked you.

heres a pictire of some "clowns" at an ADBA show in the mid 80's. Guess they arent real dogmen in your book lol.

Pit Bull Forums

 

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I didnt say he was a gamedog lol. He was game bred though, and by someone who was in the game!

 

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Let me explain it like this, some people who matched their dogs also liked to go to the conformation shows for what ever reason. I know of a dog that won at an AADR show around 03 that was supposed to be a 2xw (didnt see it, illegal). Was he bred to be a conformation dog? No/ Does that mean he isnt allowed to compete because of the way he was bred? No!

 

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You have in effect stated that 95% of dogmen are in fact not dogmen with this statement lol. I guess you never picked up any bulldog magazine from the 80's-90's, because if you have you would plainly see that a vast majority of the "historical" dogmen advertised! Like I said earlier in the thread, these dogs were not bred in anticipation of conformation shows being around one day.

 

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I know for a "FACT" this was a very good and game bulldog who produced the same..............................................

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=3383

 

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Don't back peddle dude you said real dog men don't sell dogs to pet owners so basically every great man who has ever had any major influence on the breed who is responsible for generations of solid bulldogs is a fucking peddler according to what your idea of what a real dog man is. GTFOH those men laid the foundation clown they put in more work than you will ever see in a lifetime and yes they sold dogs as pets you haven't given one logical response yet all you do is run your mouth you start talking about people's dogs how many ch's and gr ch's have your name on them again what the hell have you done that even warrants a response from a show owner who has at least made some effort to do something with the dogs they feed rather than just judge and talk tough over the Internet about shit they have no clue about. Your an ignorant mofo I am not too shabby for a lady and I certainly don't need a bulldog to boost my ego my dogs live the life they are well cared for and loved just like many dogs at those dog shows they eat the best food money can buy and they are my pride and joy so really as long as I am happy with them it doesn't matter was a cur snapping virtual dogger like you thinks about me or my dogs. You keep doing dogs in your head and us show owners will keep showing bulldogs in confo shows lmao.

 

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, dogmen do attened shows, dogmen do be on public forums , dogmen do sell pups , dogmen are just ppl and the most important thing to remember is dogmen are rare now a days . alot of ppl think they are dogmen coz they own APBT, this is true ! there are hundreds if not thousands of clowns on this site who actully think they are dogmen ! talkin about breedin and conditioning when all they breed and condition for is the show ring .

 

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Not all show breeder's breed for the show ring so get your facts straight, a lot of the clowns on this site who run there traps about being dog men are not usually show breeders, no they are dumb fucks who buy nicely bred dogs that rot on a chain and don't ever do a damn thing with them but talk about shit they read or hear other people say FACT! I don't know what show people you know or are referring to but the ones I know and have spoken to never call themselves dog men as that is not something you call or label yourself rather other dog men recognize you based on how you care for the dogs and what you have actually done with them lol. Show people don't believe that because their dog wins ribbons at conformation shows that they have a dog that was proven game. Most of us here know the difference between a game dog and what that means and a performance bred dog who comes from tested stock but has not been tested itself. And don't get it twisted there are many show dogs who have been bred back to proven dogs seen it plenty of times most of the show people I know are smart enough not to run online and run and brag about it or incriminate themselves by posting ped's like that online . I have said it once before and I will say it again as long as you are breeding the dogs for there original traits and purpose you are not ruining the dogs by choosing to participate at a conformation event.

 

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I meant to say not all show people breed for the show ring ... Some people who show the dogs at those events also work them on hogs and in other working sports.

 

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Read the first line of your post , its a contradiction lol.
And I totally agree with most of what you posted . So no disrespect but it was kind of a waste of time to even post it as I think our opinions are pretty much the same.

 

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Read my second post as I corrected my statement and went back and couldn't edit it ... I know a show breeder only breeds for the show ring. But not all people who show dogs at those shows breed for that reason only some do breed for other reasons which I will not list on this thread. And some choose to breed their CH/GR CH conformation show dogs back to proven game dogs I know many who breed this way.

 

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I have been on this site since 2008 and most of the clowns I have seen come and go that end up being banned talk big shit about show people and how they are ruining the breed blah blah blah at the same time they incriminate themselves by talking about shit that's highly illegal and like to brag about pedigree's on dogs that have never even gotten off the chain to prove anything that is where our difference of opinion comes in as most show people don't even bother with that stupidity. So no disrespect taken ..

 

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Thatz So Trueful..................

 

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Regardless of how you or I feel about these dogs it's because money always has been and always will be involved with these dogs (just as any other breed) especially with breeders. Love it or hate it its part of the lifestyle. Breedings are made for any sort of reason under the sun...right, wrong, or indifferent.

 

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Since none of this has anything to do with breeding with a purpose and not papers I think we're done. Dead horse!