The name in front of the dog (part 2)

ya know i'm board even with the conditioning we started about 25 miles per person a week ,, searched down with anything i heard of heard tupper heard billy jack , i looked for years cus sonny gave me a journal i saw his add with billy jack that weekend he talked a little dog i don't know much now let alone then i never heard any kind of dog talk at all he was talking about gr ch shep and a dog in the yard not jack he called tupper he said without that one ya might as well throw a bunch of meatballs out on the highway and let the rest of them loose i'm done ,, probaly another thing that made me click all night that dog is a female ,, then the old male he has witch if i had something other then the 2 females i have plans for i'd breed the big old man didn't know his bottom end was that ,, but who knows what was let out and pappered back then ,, or now

 

your right clicking again and i guess now i think i want muggs warez and ch nevada tuper ,,

 

Take a look at the photo dummy. that is me. Do I look like a man. I whelped Red Baby and she was my dog. If someone came along later and hung paper on dogs it was not my doing. As for Buck, there were much better dogs producing wise than Buck right at home. Why would Pat ship a bitch across country to someone who obviously was jealous of him and to a lesser dog like Buck? He wouldnt. There is a lot of hating going on here and that is why I dont post much. Haters will beleive what they want as it suits their agenda. I cant do anything about other peoples doings. the first time I put online that Buck was not the best dog to breed to as his mother was not as good as some others, all hell broke loose. My response to this was if you thought Buck was so great, then why didnt YOU breed to him. When you have a yard full of ROMS why go through all that. As for the name thing, all that happened way before any HSUS plans. If it wasnt for the liars trying to make a profit off someones name, by pulling the stunts mentioned in this thread, the dogs would probably all still be here. You call it crybabying when someone loses everything? Thats a real nice thing to say .. Did you say that about everyone else who got the same treatment? I doubt it. Just another hater with a stupid mouth. Limey, Im glad you are finally gone, we will probably outlive most of these jerks and I cant wait. Most of them are gone now. What a pity. LOL. As for the article, its breeding protocol to put the owner of the female as the breeder.Its an article for the Gazette, a non dog fighting magazine. Dogs do not fall out of trees into your yard. You are quick to name the breeder or the bloodline, even it the dogs are five generations removed, if you stupidly ruin them and decide you have to find someone besides yourself and your stupidity to blame for your failures, and total lack of ability to make a breeding without including your junky stuff and ruining the family.

 

Wait wait are you trying to say stp was jealous of the patricks and what dog did they EVER have that was better then a lesser dog lol then a 7xw rom(never really being bred back to his own bloodline) who beat another grch owned by a top dogman of his time.

Oh and the other side of the coin to hating is dick riding.

And why would he ship a dog across the country to breed to Buck umm cause it only makes sense if you breed a dog the caliber of Buck and you have a whole yard of dogs that on paper would go perfect with him you get it done in pats own words the secret to breeding good dogs is you take the best bred bitch you can get and breed her to the best pitdog out there his words not mine. And he didn't have no BETTER pitdog then Buck.

And I'm just curious you owned red baby then you had to have something to do with bucks litter who do you say was his sire cause I actually believe the breeder(umm pat not you?) that it was little tater.

 

Wait wait are you trying to say stp was jealous of the patricks and what dog did they EVER have that was better then a lesser dog lol then a 7xw rom(never really being bred back to his own bloodline) who beat another grch owned by a top dogman of his time.

Oh and the other side of the coin to hating is dick riding.

And why would he ship a dog across the country to breed to Buck umm cause it only makes sense if you breed a dog the caliber of Buck and you have a whole yard of dogs that on paper would go perfect with him you get it done in pats own words the secret to breeding good dogs is you take the best bred bitch you can get and breed her to the best pitdog out there his words not mine. And he didn't have no BETTER pitdog then Buck.

And I'm just curious you owned red baby then you had to have something to do with bucks litter who do you say was his sire cause I actually believe the breeder(umm pat not you?) that it was little tater.

 

Well put erie! But these days it seems as if everybody has dogs better than gr chs and roms. I would like to see if she answers the question as well.

 

Im sorry looking at your picture i could have sworn your a guy!!!!!!. ohh wel my bad. Seems to me you and old pat are working on a comback yourself, i wonder if thats iven remotly posible with all these dogs gone!!!.
As it iz you kinda mis understand and mis interperter my absends as a actif dog man .
But i can say we have been 20 years more ACTIF then you old pat hase ever been.
And for the record we still breed dogs!!!!.
So what that red baby was welpt bij you and was your dog. nice breeder you are knowing that she was 50% staford!!, how the hell can you then say that grch Buck wassend so good to breed to!!!.
In the past your tacticks have ALWAYS BEEN to cut douwn the dogs that where not in your kennel, yet you claimed ALL the credid of the dogs bred off of your stock.
Yet if they where curs they where not Patrick dogs!!!!! how sad is that.
Claiming victorys from other people and at the same time disreguard the bad ones. as stuff that had nothing to do with you.. kinda lame dont you think. last but not least thought you where done afther your first post!!!!!......

 

Ah, Slimy Limey. The head of the haters and quinessential liars club. Never let the (bothersome) truth get in the way of a good lie.My tactics are to state my point of view and if you dont agree, I dont care. If you see it as cutting you down, then you have a self esteem problem and are running on your ego instead of real accomplishments. Patrick dogs put you on the map, and who do you trash like a magnet when his name comes up?All the credit? Is that how you see it? Thats revealing. Claiming victories from other people? Thats revealing. The definition of Patrick dogs is dogs direct from the breeder, not a dog somewhere in someone elses pedigrees. Like yours. What does ACTIF mean? I think you are claiming to be an active dog fighter. And, that proves what? Any idiot can put two dogs together and break the law. Last time I looked it was illegal in your country. Lets see, Well you had staffs in your dogs.in fact, so does everybody, the old time staffs were game bred pit bulls that were dual registered as staffs, . Learn your history Slimey. Its like the Jack Russel terrier, the AKC ones are too wide to go to ground and dont hunt worth a doo doo. The working ones are another story and wont win ribbons in a dog show. Most working dogs dont look much like the show versions. In fact the quickest way to lose hunting gameness is to let a show person breed. Limey why dont you try reading a book. Red Baby wasnt a staff anyway, she was a daughter of Bolio and a Clouse's Staber female. The staff part is way back there. it was when anybody with a pit bull could dual register as a staff.It was around 1940. There werent any dogs for the staff people so they used the pit bull to create the staffs. The books were open for about 15 years or so and allowed dual registry of pit bulls as staffs.Bert Clouse didnt get to be who he was by breeding show staffs, now did he?Limey, give it up, you are wrong beyond wrong in your trashfest. I have put you on ignore as your babbling is not worth my time.

 

In your opinion Buck was the dog to breed to. I dont agree.

 

Redpet I was just wondering, does pat ever just smack the shit outta you and tell you to shut the fuck up?? I mean god damn he should have told the hsus take that burly bitch with ya. To call Bert sorrells a peddler. Ever since you joined this board you been peddling your tits off( did you ever actually have tits?). Just the other day you were crying about paying $25 to be a premium member, but you didn't get any ads. So if your gonna preach practice it also.

 

Hell ya Buck was the dog to breed to name another at his time that threw 3 legit GrCh dogs and going back to the op Buck is known as STPs grch Buck because they didn't get him from the breeders and because of the time work money and dedication it takes to beat 5 at the level they played at

 

BBwwhaahhahahahhahah bla bla bla bothering me???!!!! you thingk I CARE, We vare not the ones that need to keep up apearenses and have to twist and turn in order to make credibilety in order to sell pups as we DONT, we dont HAVE to pretend lia ore BS for that matter as these dogs have NEVER been our livelyhood, so your sorry atemt to shut some of us up thussenmd work.
And in your atemt to do so YOU are claiming we are dogfighters ""WITCH WE ARE NOT"" you do sound like Diane jessop!!!!!!!!!.
in saying so your are Biting the hands of all the people that would and have feed you and have been feeding you over the last 30 years. (we ofcours are not any of them).

old Pat hiding behind a womans picture.. you have not changed a single bit still claiming sucses over others people work!!!!!!!!. and walking away from it if they arend up to par and not bred bij you.
our famely have been the sucses of your blood wat a joke!!! its getting boreing you used that fraze back in the 90,s..
Do i realy need to ecsplain to people and ore do you think people are that stupid that they dont know that sometimes blood is compleatly over shadowed bij the other blood it is bred to, as in the case of TUG ROM from who,s dam uptouwns ch snubby bred bij you was shooting blanks to everting she was bred to!!.
ecsept when bred to Petronelies Fox jr who compleatly dominated the gene pool from that litter.
non of them pups posesed anything of off her, thats why she is only presend in our blood!!! and in some of the vietnam mac toby blood and no where els!!.
Its like todays clooning tegnicks where the egs used are hollow shell!!!! and filed with other genes.
the only thing snubby was good for was being the carrier of those egs filed with another dogs DNA and divelop the pups.

and ther for letting fox jr gene pool go tru in the pups.
it would not have matterd to who FOX JR was bred to.
as old Jack kelly had a winning streak of 23 back in the day with these fox dogs out of varius bitches!!.
and he wassend the only one fooling with these FOX dogs.
so for that matter snubby could have been any bitch from whatever bloodline.

I see what your trying to do , im on to you. when is your puppy mill going to start again Pat!!..
If there are dogs that have put us on the map it where the Hammonds rufus Alligator eli dogs like spike and Nelis rom .
who bij the way proved to be a ch producers with no Tug rom blood at all .
watch out people if you have 2/6/12/25% of pat patrick blood in it and you breed your own for 3 ore 30 years then this is due to him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! his greatnnes is as the ONE they called NEO.
lets give it up for him Pat Patrick your,n oak the greatist breeder of all time!!!!.
unfortunatly back then the nelis tug spike famely quit more of your hunting stock then any other
famely of hogs they met......... and thats a fackt of history.... as for red baby old ADBA pedegrees show her as a part staff in the sec generation and that bloodline used was bij NO MEANS pitbull blood in the likes of proven blood dual registerd ore not she was lsited on the ADBA pedegree as part AM STAFF with a * on the dog that was the AM STAFF. later that name and * disapeard from the peds!!????. i wonder why.
thuse it matter she was part AM staf HELL no she produced her as of when bred to TOMBSTONE .

(did she produces as wel with any other dog then with TOMBSTONE NO!!! . could it be that TOMBSTONE took over a great deal of that gene pool in them PUPS!! hell yes.
why thuse everybody call all your dogs BOLIO dogs while they in real life the larger % of those dogs are more TOMBSTONE trowbacks old pat!! you know red nozed dogs red in color ecetera something compleatly diferend bolio ever was)
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But it thuse matter Pat if you are claiming that dogs like GRCH Buck are not that valiuwble as a stud dog, and changed his pedegree, just because you didnt own a single hair on him and had a queral with them like you have with so many other dogman who carrie some of your blood.
while you yourself used a part AM Staff as your foundation dog.... witch bij the way ""COULD"" ecsplain why you can not inbred very wel on Tonka and cremator and snubby bloodlines ecetera and loose lots of abiletys!!... shall we go on this BS???... it will harm you puppy mill more then ours as we dont have one!!!!!

 

Ronald Boyles bought some of his first dogs from me. The most famous of the dogs he bought from me were Boyle's CH. BOBBY JR. and Boyle's DIRTY MARY. Boyles' DIRTY MARY was originally known by me as Patrick's ORANGE CRUSH but never regis­tered by me. About seven years later, Ronald Boyles sold Boyles' BOBBY JR. and Boyles' DIRTY MARY to the Harrison broth­ers of Missouri. They were friends of mine in the dogs and I had encouraged them to buy these dogs. Ronald Boyles had bred BOBBY JR. to DIRTY MARY to produce a great litter of dogs himself. The Harrison broth­ers made the same breeding again with the same great results. They gave me a bitch from this litter that I named Patrick's BLACK BEAUTY. Patrick's BLACK BEAUTY was one of my all time favorites and she is in the pedi­gree of the many dogs I own today.

HELLO UNO MOMENTO.

TO BE CLEAR TO YOU ALL ABOUT ONE THING.
THE TRUTHFULL OWNER OF BLACK BEAUTY ISNT PAT PATRICK BUT MISTER VAN HOOTTEN STB HOLLAND HET PAYED IN FULL FOR BOTH BABY-O AND BLACK BEAUTY BUT ONLY BABY-O WAS SEND TO HIM AND PAT KEPT BLACK BEAUTY BEHIND SAYING IT WAS A GIFT FROM MIKE.
THIS THE TRUTH ABOUT BLACK BEAUTY. MISTER HOOTTEN PAYED 2000$US IN THAT TIME ALMOST 5400 DUTCH FLORIJNS. AND WAS ROBBEB FROM A DOG A GYP THAT WAS HIS HE TOLD MIKE TO BREED BOBBY TO MARRY AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME AND PROMISED HIM TO BUY THE LITTER. ONLY TWO FEMALES WHERE BRON, BABY-O AND BLACK BEAUTY.

THIS IS A FACT.
BYE BYE.

 

redpet....wash your mouth out.....not in a thousand years will you ever be good enough to pick up Limey dog shit....i have been around long enough to speak from experience....