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Son's of Frisco

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by SA powerline, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. Mashamplan

    Mashamplan Big Dog

    I believe at one stage the Frisco x Lee Ling breeding was rated as one of the best if not the best breeding done with Frisco. How did the offspring produce?
    Now I dont run Frisco dogs, but like hearing about any line that produces well. And I dont believe any peds database would be the place to research any dogs ability to produce.
     
  2. yes mashaps, I would think that the best representitive of that breeding would be Elmo, also in europe a kennel called Dunkel ran their dogs under the banner of the lee ling strain

    if only we could get some info
     
  3. Roche

    Roche Big Dog

    E mail Garner and ask him nicely. Might work cause he was quite friendly when I spoke to him and he answered all the question's i had to ask even though he was busy judging a dog show
     
  4. you are very lucky lol
     
  5. Young SeNsE_VA

    Young SeNsE_VA Top Dog

    Best Results? TG was putting up major #'s when he bred Frisco back into other Chinaman/Bolio bred stuff before he even touched a dog with maverick anywhere in the pedigree or Rosco.
     

  6. Maybe you would like to share more than ##, we would really appreciate that............
     
  7. Young SeNsE_VA

    Young SeNsE_VA Top Dog

    Frisco threw high #'s when bred to Lee Ling,Fat Baby,Valerie,Bolero, Ellie,Little Dea Dozer,Trick Bag,Black Velvet,Miss Hurt. Now do you understand? No Maverick nor Rosco in none of those listed and keep in mind this is before the website and peddling days. I remember at 1 time the most talked about Frisco stuff all came down from Frisco X Lee Ling, Frisco X Fat Baby & Frisco X Valerie.
     
  8. The Saint

    The Saint Big Dog

    I think this convo has a dual purpose in the sense that the question should've been.
    1. Best performing son of Frisco?
    2. Best producing son of Frisco?
     
  9. MiRaGe

    MiRaGe Big Dog

    Best producing son would probably be dynomite or Elmo, maybe bolo.

    SA Powerline, Alot of the best strains from frisco were from Rebel Yell and Elmo, Frisco x Fat Baby and Frisco Leeling. The best impact I think maverick had with Frisco dogs was Wicked. Rosco is usually crossed with El Negro dogs in tom's and others breedings with these dogs. El Negro himself is heavier Frisco than Maverick
     
  10. Sampson1

    Sampson1 CH Dog

    Based on experience alone my vote is going to this dog http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=78985
    I know he doesnt have alot of winning offspring listed but seeing as how the only Frisco dog I own is off of him he gets my vote. He was said to be the next coming of Chinaman by the men who saw him work and I think that should be the goal with this line. He is also throwing a higher percent of game dogs from my experience. I know the male I have off of him is much more then just mouth.
     
  11. I have said it before, Frisco dogs are good dogs in generall, for those with liitle experience with them, may see them as phenominal.

    It is easy the generalise, i would have loved to have more details around specific dogs , numbers, results, as they don't lie.

    everything else is just a geustimate, maybe we should talk about his daughters, as SCAR is the only son I know of and he is still the only one that is backed by some info.
     
  12. Roche

    Roche Big Dog

    U people seem to forget about the Bolo dog. Garner even stated that he rates this dog as high as he rated frisco! He even said that bolo is probably the best son of frisco on his yard. Info about his production might be out there somewhere. Just need to know where to look for it
     
  13. MiRaGe

    MiRaGe Big Dog

    Very weird, you got better dogs named in this thread than that scar dog. He may be great over there with his kids but not here
     
  14. Sampson1

    Sampson1 CH Dog

    How is Scar the only one backed with info? Scar is the only dog YOU have info on that in no way proves him the best. In all reality if were looking at the big sceme of things Scar is the most unknown worldwide compared to the others named. If your so desperate for first hand info then you should ask the owners of the dogs already listed. Like you I picked the one I have a son of so im not just spreading hearsay, but that doesnt mean the others listed arent better then the one I listed. Ive read this whole thread an I still know less about Scar then the others named. So again how is he the only one back by info?
     
  15. Young SeNsE_VA

    Young SeNsE_VA Top Dog

    Once again, Before TG had his lil website and started to peddle the best shit off Frisco was coming from litters when he was bred to Lee Ling,Fat Baby,Valerie and I can also add Bolero to this list. I think Ripper is the most under rated daughter of Frisco but she was a helluva a producer.
     
  16. Sampson1

    Sampson1 CH Dog

    Yup my vote went to a dog off Frisco x Valerie. Absolute beast of a dog.
     
  17. zoltan

    zoltan Pup

    Valid point sampson scar did something is SA but no where else .After last night Im beggining to think alot of hype was created around scar in order to sell the kidz at an increased price but thats jmo
     
  18. ZOLTAN. Im in no way a Frisco fan, but that comment is probably one of the stupidist comments i ever heard. Unless campaigned worldwide or offspring exported no dog can proof himself worldwide. In the end all anyone can do is go after hearsay if he wasn't there.

    FOR THE REST
    So you guys argue that pups exported are mediocre and are in no ways comparable to that of the USA. I'm......am I missing something here. Have you now just admitted to exporting shit. Hu!!!! I forgot, youve been blessed by the gift of foreseeing the future which pups will turn out the best and hence exporting the shit to other countries. I don't think so.

    WTF...WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN.
    How can you be so arrogant.
     
  19. zoltan

    zoltan Pup

    FK FKU bra I dont care what think of my comment .I said before that no one can say usa better sa as they never compeeted but ppl are right scar best here not best in the world .And yes 4out 5 did not work out and I lost bit time moola that real not hearsay
     
  20. Just read what you wrote.

    "scar did something is SA but no where else"

    How do you propose he prove himself worldwide or any dog for that matter.
     

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