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People are talking about pure gene pools, let me show you a real pure dog

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by Limey kennels, Apr 22, 2011.

  1. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Looks VERY related to the eurly spike/ Nelis blood!!!!..
    having said that so do some of the Eli boudraux famely of dogs witchs is no sirprice if you read my toughts on the black stuf in the pelican brief. witch i wrote years ago.... the eli(henry blood) blood did came tru ch spike... I say he looks very representetif of the old blood yes....ps thuse some of these dogs have black marks on there tounqeu
     
  2. IRON KING

    IRON KING Pup

    Hello, Limey Kennels!
    Thank you for your response and kind words to address to our dog!
    "Eurly spike / Nelis blood !!!!.." - You mean:CH MR BULLDOG & LIMEY'S SPIKE (HAMMONDS' IRON JO) / Limey Kennels Nelis ROM blood? Yes?
     
  3. derrty

    derrty Pup

    Hey Limey, what about these black marks on their tongues
     
  4. vagabond

    vagabond Pup

    Hey IRON KING, it is no wonder that your dog looks like a dog over Nelis ROM, As far as I know, your dogs have Dragon Family's CH Ringo in their pedigrees many times. And CH Ringo is out of CH Spike, same as Nelis ROM. I suppose you have CH Ringo through Iron Kid and Iron Django, two sons of CH Ringo who were well known dogs in former Yugoslavia.
     
  5. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Iron King.. Yes i ment Limey kennels ch spike blood like nelis rom but tru CH Ringo, I have some never publiseh foto,s of CH Ring who lived just douwn the road from me about 5 min away. if you need some more info feel free to send a personal post....


    Derrty i just like to know !! hahahahhahaha it hase some meaning tho.
     
  6. derrty

    derrty Pup

    Ok, I just asked because I have one Eli dog that has few black marks on its tongue.....and I thought you have some knowledge and some explanation on that

    Best Regards
     
  7. MOUSE

    MOUSE Pup

    Great pictures as well as my admiration and respect for breeding the line.But it is only pure in the sense of the family of dogs.Keep up the hard work.
     
  8. dogman2007

    dogman2007 Big Dog

    excellent post
     
  9. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Mouse what do you meen bij that ???
     
  10. IRON KING

    IRON KING Pup

    Hello, Limey Kennels!
    Thank you for your reply. Of course, you're right - in the pedigree of this dog is 61x - CH MR BULLDOG & LIMEY'S SPIKE (HAMMONDS' IRON JO), but there's no - Limey Kennels Nelis ROM. It is our young male - he is only 2 years.
    Grateful for the offer for personal communication.
    B.r.
     
  11. IRON KING

    IRON KING Pup

    Hi, vagabond!
    Yes, just right - in our dogs, the blood flows CH MR BULLDOG & LIMEY'S SPIKE (HAMMONDS' IRON JO) - through his sons: Van Herpen's ACE (CH Ringo), Heffner's Red Ringo and daughters: Heffner's Miss Spike, OOSTINJEN'S BOBO.
    Our dogs do not have Iron Kid. Since the early 90's (and later with 1997, after the death of the founder of the kennel), our goal was - to keep blood Stevan's Black King. That is why our dogs do not have Iron Kid. Himself Stevan's Black King - 75% Sorrells' blood. But as you can see, in spite of this - we managed to get a dog - like IRON JO (sorry, but this is used to name this male in the former Soviet Union). Dog in the photos is not registered in the database, but his brother and sister have registered. Here's the link:
    http://www.gamedogped.com/details.php?id=47606&gens=9
    P.S. Yes, it is from Yugoslavia were brought the ancestors of our dogs.
    B.r.
     
  12. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Iron King you didnt not understand me, wat i ment was that he LOOKS like the old time stuff LIKE nelis ectera.
     
  13. vagabond

    vagabond Pup

    Although Black King have 75% of Sorrells blood, he is very similar by color and type to his father Django and Django's father CH Ringo. And you have selected your dogs so that they resemble Black King. I guess your family of dogs is ​​a good example of selection described by the Limey Kennels in his article. So, your dogs have more influence of Ringo's blood than the pedigree says, if I can say so. Did you menaged to preserve hunting abilities of those old dogs too?
     
  14. awesome looking dogs limey would love to get my hands on the henry pup he looks just like my monster dog
     
  15. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Vagabond thats aczackly how it breakes down!!!!!!

    Monstervili how is youir monsterd dog bred..........
     
  16. IRON KING

    IRON KING Pup

    vagabond, if we understand correctly what you are asking, the answer is unequivocal - yes! Distinctive qualities of Black King was - a gameness, the mind, the technique - which he firmly conveyed not only their childrens, but also grandchildren too ... And it is precisely on those qualities we are building screening and selection of pairs for breeding. You asked about this ...?

    Sorry for bad English. As there is difficulty in translating from English - is not fully understood the meaning of written material. For example this sentence: " Vagabond thats aczackly how it breaker down !!!!!!" Tell me, what it says? Thanks.
     
  17. Dunlap 1

    Dunlap 1 Big Dog

    "Vagabond that is exactly hwo it breaks down."
    Don't know where your from IK but you can use google translate and it will do it for you.
     
  18. Dunlap 1

    Dunlap 1 Big Dog

    Sorry, it's not hwo, it's how.
     
  19. vagabond

    vagabond Pup

    Hehehehe IRON KING my friend, you are probably from Ukraine, I am from Serbia and Limey is from Holland. And that's why we don't understand each other sometimes when we communicate on English.... My answer is -yes, that is exactly what I asked you. If you menaged to preserve gameness, style and other characteristics of old Stevan's Black King through your family of dogs - this is a great example of selection described by Limey in his article!!! Your dogs look like Black King and they act like Black King. And if we agree that Stevan's Black King was typical "CH Spike dog" (although there is only 25% of this blood in his veins), then we can say that in the blood of your dogs today dominant influence has Mr. Bulldog & Limey's CH Spike. And that is why your today's dogs resemble to old Limey dogs. Because you have selected from them so!!! And I think Limey confirmed this...
     
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