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Gr ch pedro

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by preme, Nov 26, 2010.

  1. preme

    preme CH Dog

    The Last Word: Grand Champion Pedro ROM

    Recently while in a conversation with the editor and long time friend, FB we got on the subject of Grand Champion Pedro, which is also recognized as a Register of Merit in the Sporting Dog Journal. We decided it was time to set the record straight and clean up anything and everything that revolved around the old Pedro dog. As Bill says “ from the womb to the tomb” so here it is.

    I understand that a few years ago a couple of know it alls got together and told the story of Pedro in some extinct magazine, by the way it was a rag that I did not subscribe to! The problem with this is that they in reality had nothing or very little at most to do with Pedro! I found it quite humorous that these people belittled his efforts, condemned him as a pit dog and stud. Soon as his fame started to surface these same leaches had to jump on the bandwagon and tell the gossip according to them, steal the thunder so to speak. This same bunch ended up in the cur pile as Pedro has long since made fools of them. Pedro has gone down in history as a great pit dog and one of the few great stud dogs. And for the characters that wrote their slime, they all have just gone down! One left the country, the others let their bad habits destroy them and the rest of them had so little impact on the game that I can't recall what happened to them. I will give credit where credit is due and only to those that deserve it, as far as Pedro was concerned.

    Grand Champion Pedro was bred by James Crenshaw whom owned Champion Rascal at the time he was bred to Mr. Dow's Sandy. Of course we are all familiar with the producing capabilities of Crenshaw's Champion Rascal, Crenshaw's Sandy was a very good producer and appears in the pedigrees of many good ones, Holcomb's Zeus, Meade's Grand Champion Crazy Turfman are a couple that come to mind. Pedro was game tested at an early age for about 45 minutes. He showed signs that he was most likely to be a dead game dog, but he did not show the bite and flash that Crenshaw said he was looking for. He then went on to Emmet A. and he is the gentleman that I bought him from for the meager sum of 600.00. I had called James Crenshaw to verify it was the dog that I wanted, he assured me it was. Pedro went under the name of Wee Willie at the time. Bob Cox had offered him at stud in the Sporting Dog Journal so when I called and inquired about the dog I soon found out that his owner was Emmet A. At any rate Wee Willie had won several matches and also won under the name of Lil Joe. I was told that James Crenshaw tried to buy the little dog back for 1000.00 after I told him where he was and the price I was going to pay for him. Luckily Emmet A. is an honest dogman and held up to our deal and did not give into the higher offer. After receiving Pedro I was told he may have heartworms, after a trip to the veterinarian he was diagnosed as negative and then it was to the pit for a look see at my newly acquired dog. I saw plenty of raw talent, but schooling, proper feeding and conditioning were all in order. The truth is he was in pretty bad shape when I first got him, but I soon corrected this and he responded very well.

    Pedro's first match of record toward his Grand championship was into the Alabama Boys at 35lbs the time only took 37 minutes. Pedro showed me that he could bite and he had learned his lessons well as he totaled their dog.

    Number two, was Texas' Cupid at 35 1/2 lbs. and was one of Pedro's toughest contest. It went two hours and forty-seven minutes and both dogs actually scratched until Cupid expired as he attempted to scratch. Pedro showed me this time that a dog would have to kill him to stop him. So the decision was made to go for that coveted championship.

    His third match came only two months later, some thought I was crazy after coming off such a hard battle. But he had healed well, not taking away from his next opponent, who I had seen go before, I knew Pedro could whip him; they made the challenge, so on we went! Tarheel's Buck a Carolina bred dog was no threat as Pedro put him away in forty-seven minutes. For all practical purposes it was over by ten minutes.

    After this match I was so proud that Pedro had won his Championship. My long time friend Artie Nance came over to me and tried to rain on my parade. He said 'Snakeman, I would not be happy with that Pedro dog, I think he is a piece of shit and I believe that my Ben dog would beat him in twenty minutes!' I was so pissed off I found myself making a contract for the next month. Champion Pedro was being called to do the impossible, as I had more dogs at that time than I did brains, but I knew that Pedro would take it to the limit.

    About six weeks later Artie Nance showed up with his prized Ben, he was a two-time winner that had blown away his competitive weight of 35 lbs. To start off the first 10 minutes looked as if Ben would whip Pedro for sure, but after that it was all down hill. Champion Pedro took a skin hold on the lip and just lay there and hung on until about the thirty-minute mark. Pedro comes to the top and kicks ass, after the fifty-minute mark Ben is trying to find an exit, but Champion Pedro blocks the door. Ben starts to holler and Nance picks up at 52 minutes. This fight was better for the checkbook than all the others combined.

    I had come to the decision of retiring Champion Pedro after this contest, as I finally realized what I had. One of those dogs that only come around once. I would only show him again if the purse was right and preferably a champion.

    I collected forfeits with Pedro from Super Gnat (CH Chino), Turlington's (Dipstick), R. Sorrells, and W. Spencer as none of them wanted any part of a dog they would have to kill to beat. So I had Champion Pedro retired until Artie Nance came to me wanting a chance to get his money back, I decided that the stakes were worth It. It was one year to the month that we went into Artie Nance's Sarge dog, a six-year-old dog that had won eight matches, bred from Ed Crenshaw. I was told later that Mr. Nance had bought this dog specifically to beat Pedro and to win his money back. In the same stroke he wanted to shut the ole Snakeman up about this dog. They almost did it, but I had Champion Pedro in the best shape of his life. Sarge was a real smooth fighter he paced himself and was effective with his mouth. The first hour was a wrestling match; the second hour was a war. Around one hour and forty-five minute mark Pedro got his second wind and blew Sarge away by burying himself in his opponent’s chest. This win was a great one and made Champion Pedro a bona fide Grand Champion. All together Grand Champion Pedro won 9 contract contests and 11 over all. He was a great pit dog in all respects and truly a living dead game dog.

    His breeding career since has outshined any of his show endeavors. He has produced many champions and many dogs that have produced top pit dogs for generations on down the line. Grand Champion Pedro R.O.M. produced Champion Rush, Champion Mert, Champion Pedro Jr., Champion Beak, Grand Champion Madge and produced three aces for Jesse Rods. Many good dogs have Grand Champion Pedro up close in their breeding, such as, Yogi's Pedgie, Hoffman's Champion Bronco, Callender's Krokus, Dolf's Black Powder, Dolf's Cherry, Dixie Line Connection's Runt, Dixie Line Connection's Champion Bolero, Hammond's Ralph, Jessie’s Bashful, Rushin Bill's Tar Baby, Reverend Dack's Sissu, Arellano's Midge, Garner and K. Hall's Jammin' Jenny and Crenshaw's Bad Mamma along with many more that are just to many to list.

    I honestly believe that the people that let Grand Champion Pedro pass by them were honored to have known this little dog for a short time. I personally bred Grand Champion Pedro to a lot of good gyps and the rewards were great. I had breeding rights on Grand Champion Pedro until his death. I sold Pedro to M.R. Harris of Hillsborough, NC after a short stay there he was sold to Thomas Garner. Mr. Garner made several breedings that produced some damn good bulldogs. During the time Tom had Grand Champion Pedro I was living the life of an outlaw up in Tennessee, Tom sold the little fellow to a fellow up in Canada where he died. I stayed in close contact until this fellow got out of the game.

    Like I said Crenshaw and Dow deserve to be recognized as Grand Champion Pedro's breeders. The rest was just Pedro and me. I took care of him, conditioned him, and helped to heal him, with little or no help. Pedro did the rest on heart and talent; between us we made a dynasty, the Pedro dogs. Now his followers are doing like wise! Building on a true bulldog. So now when you see his name on a pedigree you will know that a real bulldog is there!

    Snakeman's Grand Champion Pedro R.O.M. will be longed remembered when the folks that talked negative about him are dead and gone.

    Long after those that talked negative about this great dog are dead and gone, fanciers will still recognize the merits of Snakeman’s Grand Champion Pedro R.O.M.

    By SNAKEMAN
     
  2. preme

    preme CH Dog

    The line is named after the best fighter of our time grand champion Pedro (Winner Honor Books). He was received as a result of mating with champion Raskal Krensho Sandy (Sandy - daughter of champion Honey Bunch (Winner Honor Books). Krensho James Grow it, but the owner is Sneykman. GR CH Pedro is the best soon of rascal POR,Rascal pure ELI dog.
    His career includes 11 games, which only ended in victory! His games lasted from 37 minutes (the first) to 3 hours 15 minutes (eighth). Title he received in 1981, and became grand champion in 1982 He was a first-class fighter with good defense and have a better attack. Despite the large number of matches, he went out of them almost without wounds. Due to this, he went from battle to battle and to win. Thus, his second match, he held 18.VI.1981 city (the first - of 06.06.1979) for 2 hours and 47 minutes and after two months of incomplete (04.06.1981 town) has fought for the title. He won the match for 47 minutes. Sneykman immediately appoint the 4 th game, which took place on 27.07.1981 in, ie After 43 days after the third game! Pedro has won over 52 minutes.
    After a year break, has been appointed as match for the title of grand champion. The match took place on 21.07.1982, after tense fight Pedro won the title of grand champion; match lasted 2 hours and 10 minutes. Won the title of grand champion, Pedro fought another 6 times and only gain the victory.
    Despite the fact that he has not specifically intended for mating, and he received the title of ROM (Winner Honor Books), by showing himself as a producer. It occurred following the dogs, who have won titles are: Grand Champion Maggi, champions Rash, Merten, Bik and Pedro ml. Pedro made and 3-champions for Jesse Roda, as well as a dog with a 1-2 victory.
    Consequently, Pedro is a dog that has won in all that we can, giant, which has shown itself, and in the ring, and as a producer.
     
  3. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

    Didnt the Historian and some other say he was a made up GR Ch. I find it hard to believe someone could make up a story on a dog this elaborate. Good Read! Thanks
     
  4. csotelo9388

    csotelo9388 Big Dog

    gud stuff Preme...GO STEELERS!!!!!
     
  5. Nice write up Preme!!
     
  6. redrumdog

    redrumdog Top Dog

    I remember guys where trying to get pups out of old Pedro. Every one wanted to breed to him.Hell of a dog and good read.Nothing surprises me about people.Some are just plain jealous of others accomplishments and think by talking down a good dog or dogman makes them look good.
     
  7. Bxpits

    Bxpits CH Dog

    good read about a true grch
     
  8. I always disbelieved Pedro being a grand champion based on 3 things...

    1. He was said to have defeated Tarheel's Buck for his championship. Tarheel is about as honest as a man can be and he says he never owned a dog named Buck and he never went into Pedro with any dog. Tarheel posts here and I'm sure he'd be happy to answer you himself.

    2. Its knee slappingly funny to amagine Snakeman walking a dog, he wouldn't and couldn't walk one to the end of his driveway,lol. You'd have to of met him to understand.

    3. James Crenshaw said he wasn't.

    Do I know for sure? Nope. Do I trust Crenshaw and Tarheel more than the camps surrounding Pedro? Yep.
     
  9. preme

    preme CH Dog

    i hope tar heel does speak on it that would be nice , i had a write up that goes against this one ill try to find it if someone has it please post its about grch pedro having heart worms and wat not and not being a real grch .. good post historian !
     
  10. eddieem

    eddieem Big Dog

    Ya i read that one too preme...says he was a good dog but to sick and after he sold him he made gr ch. He called him something else too
     
  11. magnoilaotis

    magnoilaotis Top Dog

    You are probaly talking about the write up written by Bobby Cox. He states that he owned Pedro for a while. He goes on to say he had two bouts with heartworms and was called wee willie. I have seen an old ad with Cox advertising a dog bred just like Pedro, but called wee willie. So there is at least some truth to his claims. There seemed to always be some controversy around Pedro going by letters written to the sdj by pedro's various owners. I think it had alot to do with puppy sales.
     
  12. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    hell i'd take something off padro.
     
  13. eddieem

    eddieem Big Dog

    Ya that's the one...wee willie
     
  14. pit#5

    pit#5 Banned

    He has produced many champions and many dogs that have produced top pit dogs for generations on down the line. I think i saw a picture of him in the Smantic book " the world of fighting dogs.
     
  15. preme

    preme CH Dog

    in a heart beat
     
  16. 76muscle

    76muscle Big Dog

    Grand Champion Pedro... A true bulldog!
     
  17. NorCalTim

    NorCalTim Big Dog

    He is way back in CH Trailer Trash (made CH in show in OR 2009)
     

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  19. 76muscle

    76muscle Big Dog

    Is this the only article around about this historic dog? This is the only one that I've come across. Does anyone know of his life line? That's what's missing from this read.
     

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