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creatine.

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by ray, Aug 10, 2010.

  1. ray

    ray Pup

    i have a question, i hope i don't get shot in the head with this question. i need your honest opinions guys. i have an apbt. my question is, is it ok to give creatine for my dog? if so, is it ok if i will give it after work outs, or before..?thank you.
     
  2. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

  3. TheIII

    TheIII Big Dog

    Came across some at a pet store. Said it was for working dogs. Not going to lie I used it but only half the amount/dose (I was skeptical but interested) it may have helped recovery but nothing very noticeable. I would imagine you would use it on a cycle like a human but the results I got were nothing special.
     
  4. BOCKennels

    BOCKennels Big Dog

    Creatine has a place in dog training. It can llow quicker recovery and higher output.

    BUT most of the muscle gain experienced through creatine will be lost when you come off cycle. Humans do not need to come off cycle, creatine can be used indefinatly. BUT miost of the VISUAL muscle gains come from a higher retention of water within themuscle cells. So would that REALLY be a positive? High levels of water ina dog can cause it to run hot faster. We tried to counteract the effects of creatine with HMB, but the results varied fromd go to dog. SO if I were going to use creatine, it would be in the begining of a keep to get quicker off the line results, and fade itout towards the end to avoid water retention... Just a quick version of My $.02
     
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  5. doubledog

    doubledog Pup

    i use it before and after workouts.
     
  6. popper

    popper CH Dog

    how long you used it for? Just like with Humans you mjust run it for weeks and make sure you do not skip doses... even with steroids it takes weeks to even notice anything , but once you notice the resutls will come on
     
  7. popper

    popper CH Dog

    yes but with higher water retention comes higher strength gains which in turns promotes new muscle mass...
     
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  8. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    true but its not body building, it will cause more harm than good. U can use it effectively but its not necessary and i wouldnt want to risk it. For my personal taste i dont like a lot of added bulk on my dogs.
    I used creatine for like a month when i start preseason for basketball and then stop so as not to gain to much bulk. Just speed up the process
     
  9. noblebostons

    noblebostons Big Dog

    Creatine isn't used to bulk up dogs. It's used to speed up recovery time
     
  10. TheIII

    TheIII Big Dog

    I used it for a few months. If I think back on it he might have been recovering faster but to be honest I was not to specific about when he got it. Just threw it in after a really hard work out.
     
  11. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    true but when muscles retain water....
     
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  12. Mr. Brownstone

    Mr. Brownstone Big Dog

    i dont know i was a pro athlete for many years and i had all kinds of ways of legally doing sups and never ever once did myself or any others consider creatine to be one of them. tbh it was considered a joke!! you can get the same results without the added drawbacks plus in alotta cases many feel it does not even do all that much if anything in the end. if you want something to recover you just gotta know how to train properly.. eat sleep and take the right vitamins. you can at least get the same bennies from trian vitamins eat sleep right as you will form creatine. imop creatine is a waste of money much better things to do the job for the same $$$$ or only a bit more dep who you know. personally since we are talking dogs and what i have overheard it does to core temp i would much prefer to just give em something a bit more affective that does not have all that many neg health ramifications used properly;) again that is talking dogs not humans. for humans that would be cheating and i am more of a hard worker than a cheater.
     
  13. ray

    ray Pup

    thanks for the informative reply on my post guys.. i helped me a lot, my purpose for using creatine is to add endurance on my dog, did i use the right term? what i mean is, so that my dog will not be tired easily...
    should i give it in powder form, or in capsule form?
    how about amino? is it ok for pitbull?? i work my dog a lot..
    thanks again guys!
     
  14. synno2004

    synno2004 Top Dog

    More muscle mass, more weight......... if you aint going for a bodybuilding contest ;) I say its useless.

    Distance runner!

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    Body Builder
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  15. synno2004

    synno2004 Top Dog

    Creatine is not an essential nutrient, as it is manufactured in the human body from L-arginine, glycine, and L-methionine.<SUP id=cite_ref-2 class=reference>[3]</SUP>
    In humans and animals, approximately half of stored creatine originates from food (mainly from meat). Since vegetables do not contain creatine, vegetarians show lower levels of muscle creatine, but show the same levels after using supplements.<SUP id=cite_ref-burke_3-0 class=reference>[4]</SUP>

    creatine for endurance??:eek: It's for the birds!!!

    you want endurance??????????????????? WALK the DOG!!:tdogwalk2:
     
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  16. Flipside

    Flipside CH Dog

    Creatine is not for endurance work! It was made to provide energy in cells for explosive burst like in sprints or weght-lifting!
    Look into too feeding specific fats and oils if you want energy for endurance/long distance training!

    YIS
     
  17. Jt.

    Jt. Pup


    Where's his ass? :confused:
     
  18. TheIII

    TheIII Big Dog

    I never thought about it to much. My boy was on some very fatty cuts of meat for about 3 month and had much much more energy. Wish I was in touch with that butcher still :( us ignorant just don't think fat when you think healthy though.
     
  19. ray

    ray Pup

    thanks again for your reply...
    your thoughts about my question helped me a lot.
    i walk my dogs almost every night. at least 1 hour if week days. and 3 hours during weekends...
     
  20. ray

    ray Pup

    so, whats the purpose of creatine if given in dogs.
    my dog is a gamedog. you know what i mean guys.. and i live in the p.i...
     

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