Pinch Collar

I WAS THINKING ABOUT USING A PINCH COLLAR OR AN OTHER NAME FOR IT PRONG COLLAR. I WAS WONDERING IF ANY BODY USES THESE OR HAS ANY THING TO SAY ABOUT THEM GOOD OR BAD ALL COMMENTS AND INFO WILL HELP THANKS.

 

If I saw a person put them on an APBT which loves to pull id be likely to knock them out...it is not good, it might keep them from pulling but then it will also make the walk turn into an event they dont look forward to very much...just get a good 2 inch wide collar and get use to them pulling...thay will enjoy it more than when theyre neck is getting pinched....JMO

 

i used a regular nylon collar for a little while. then my dog started pulling until she choked herself. so i got a tightening harness that works okay. my wife has to use a pinch collar. it stops the pulling if that's why you need it. she doesn't seem to mind it. i don't use it with her though

 

oh yeah. misterdogman, if you happen to see my wife out, try to refraim from knockin her out! appreciate it! lol

 

well ok... but only on this one exception...but im warning you now I wont knock her out but I will push her down...lol...J/K

 

lol ..when used correctly the pinch or prong collar is very effective! It does not choke the dog like a choke collar will .. its effectiveness is in that it uses pressure points. it picks up the skin ..it does not puncture or bite into. (it can however if used incorrectly)

If your dog is a hard puller, you might want to seek the advice of a professional first and have them show you the correct way to use the prong collar.. I used it on one of my dogs and lets just say it NEVER interfered with her love of walks. What it can do is to help teach the dog pulling isnt allowed

Yes.. they can be dangerous..but all collars can if not used properlly. And if the dog is bullheaded enough to not respond to the prong collar, the use should be discountinued..


there is also a head halter.. called a halti, that has been very effective.. as with horses, where the head goes the rest will follow.. Or so they say... No pressure is put on the dogs neck.. I hear alot of good things about them.. definetly something to consider!

 

very kind of ya misterdogman, very kind.lol
but about the pinch collar, it does work most of the time. my wife's only 120lbs or so and can control the dog just fine...unless there's a cat involved!

 

ya they are effective etc but I heard one time that when the dog is motivated and does run real hard like you said after a cat, they can hurt the Corartid artery, Jugular...and the Larynx....I think it sounds logical and im only repeating what a dogman long ago told me...but I think you can get the same results with a harness or regular collar 2" if your more determined then the dog...and haltis do work real good like Rocksteady said...but I do have one a guy gave me so if you need one Ill send it to ya..he had a dog that died and I bought al his stuff like houses and toys etc and it was in a box...

 

I use a prong for going to events in public because I know he will behave on a prong as opposed to being an opportunist on the collar/harness. He knows if he's on a flat collar/harness alone I don't mind if he pulls because I usually walk him early in the morning and late at night when there's not many people about, public image isn't a worry.

I'm wary of the head collars that turn the head to the side due to the potential for damage done to the spine if the dog lunges. Imagine running/lunging at full speed only to have your head suddenly jerked to the side, it just doesn't sound safe. If properly fitted and used, a prong will NOT do any damage to the dog. I've put it on myself and had a friend yank it as hard as he could(much harder than a proper correction for ANY size dog) and I've done the same with a choke chain. I found the prong to be much more humane as far as pain and potential damage.

 

you got some crazy sh*t goin on up in nj! j/k . the pull harness works best for me. it tightens up on thier front legs when they pull

 

Haha, yeah it was pretty funny. I wasn't sure about the prong, so I figured if I'm putting it on my dog I want to make sure it isn't going to poke holes in his neck or anything(because that's what it looks like it would do).

I haven't tried a no pull harness mainly because I use a regular harness and a weight pull harness for working so my dog kind of differentiates between collar and harness.

 

hey phez718..your not the only one who has tried the prong collar on themselves! lol. Ive trained many dogs and know how to use a prong collar, but accidents can happen. Last year I had my dog at a peewee football game and decided to use the prong because he pulls like crazy in public just to meet everybody. We were sitting on the bleachers and a lady came over to pet him and as he got up to greet her, he slipped off and fell on his side. I didnt think anything of it cause he seemed fine, but 3 days later I came home from work to find that my dog couldnt breathe cause his trachea was punctured. At this point I still didnt know what was wrong so I rushed him to the vet. They took x-rays of his neck and you could see where the air was leaking out of his trachea. Basically there was nothing they could do. It had to heal on its own. But it wasnt easy keeping him quiet and everytime he barked he made it worse again. It took a long time to heal but everything is fine now. Lets just say I wont be using a prong again. If your dog pulls then start obedience training and teach them to heel.

 

that is a freak accident... also take into conideration the dogs who have strangled to death on a regualr collar! You can just as easly bruise and damage the windpipe with the traditional collar..

COLLARS ARE JUST A TOOL!!!!!! they are not cure alls!!! The only way to make them work correctly is to TRAIN and be consitant!! It can be a slow process ..which is why if you want your dog as an adult to walk nicely on the leash you need to make sure they do so as a pup!

its a slow process.. you must start with no distractions, train until the dog has it down then start adding the distractions.

Personally I would take a prong collar anyday over the trad choke collars.. even over the trad collars when walking ( allthough a good harness is best IF you let your dog pull)

Even obeidence classes are only as good as what YOU put into them. You have to work at it.. everyday and never allow yourself to give into your dog even for a slight second. Heck, Ive trained dogs that its taken me 1/2 hour to get 1 block!! (which actually is bad.. training shouldnt be so long ..it will burn a dog out..)

All in all, use whatever YOU feel comfortable with!! ( one of my dogs pulls like heck with a harness or regualr collar but put that prong on, she walks better than a ch obedience dog lol)

You might even consdier clicker training.. there is so much out there But the main point in training is whatever you decide, STICK WITH IT and dont keep changing unless its not working. You confuse the dog that way..

(one trick i learned.. when the dog starts to pull ahead to a wuick about face, snap the lead / collar and walk BRISKLY in the other direction. Once the dog is walking with you, turn around ..do this everytime the dog starts to pull ahead.. it teaches the dog to pay attention to you

 

Yes I will use a pinch when a choke will not control a hard head. This is only when we are training and I agree just like a choke it must be used properly. The dogs I take into public can not be pulling me around, that is why they must be trained to heal, sit and stay, very basic commands for a public dog. When I have them in public on harness I will still have a choke on the neck just in case they deside to relapse and if not needed then they have their bling bling on. I am not pretenting to know how to handle those who use their dogs for weight pulling but for therapy dogs they need to be in control and on command and sometime this takes a firm hand and a little pinch. If you see blood you just went to far.

 

If you use a pinch collar you have to start early with them and train them on it. I've used one since mine was about 12 weeks old and I just keep adding links to it. Believe it or not, it works great! But there is a certain way to use them and it took me a while to get the hang of it. It works for me, but I've seen pinch collars put on adult dogs that had never seen a pinch before and it didn't work at all. Guess you'll just have to try it and hope for the best! Good luck.

Rocksteady also has a good point. I learned how to get her from pulling at obedience class. They also said to walk with a treat in your hand and bend over so that the treat is low enough so that the dog follows it right by your side and tell your dog, "Good doggie" over and over again so that they learn that it is good to walk on a loose lead and walk by your side. You look nutty doing it but it works pretty well.

 

Thanks For All The Info It Was Very Helpfull. I Have A Setup Were I Can Walk Both Of Them At The Same Time And They Do So Well Until There Is Another Dog Or Some Thing Around Them They Dont Like I Dont Want To Use A Prong Collar But I Want Gremlin To Stop Ripping My Arm Off Thanks For All The Advice It Really Helped.

 

You can teach them to "pay attention" and look at you when told to pay attention, that helps when other dogs are around (for me anyways). It takes their attention from other dogs to you.

 

I agree with Rocksteady. She hit the nail on the head with her answers. I also want to point out for the squeamish, that they do make rubber tips to slip over the prongs on the prong collar. They cost approx. $3.00 & for some people, it just makes them feel better to have that extra bit of "protection".

 

there is also a head halter.. called a halti, that has been very effective.. as with horses, where the head goes the rest will follow.. Or so they say... No pressure is put on the dogs neck.. I hear alot of good things about them.. definetly something to consider!

I was recently given a lot of stuff to use for the rescue.In one of the boxes was a brand new Halti-lead.So I tried this on Blue -as he likes to pull too much when motivated and has a bad trachea,thus no prong or choke collars go on him.Well.I suggest if going to use this -you start at an early age.Blue has been trained for many tasks and been through many scenarios.The moment he went into that halter,he pitched the biggest fit.He could not stand it being around his nose and he freaked.Needless to say the halter didn't survive.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

 

I do not believe that the halti or what ever the call it leaves a lasting impression on the dog. I have seen them being used at petsmart training classes and as soon as the thing is off the dog is back doing what ever it was before.