only a fool would give a DNA sample to a registry.

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

 

i never questioned his actions

 

Anyone still matching dogs, or selling dogs to match, at this point in time, is obviously an idiot. Its dead. And dont think closing the circles will save your butt. It wont because of all the new technolgoy, an d of course because sometimes old friends still rat when the heat is on

 

bout some stupid crap there.so if your dog has dna that any one else has and used to fight there also fighting there's.am i getting this right?
if i was tg id been paronaid long time ago.:eek:

 

Where's this quote from? it's not in the article you posted.

I mean that's ubsurd, and I'd have no worries of about that honestly. If our constitution means anything (which is pretty debateable at the moment) you have the right to have a dog from fighting lineage.

I mean Soldiers are glamourized, warriors are hereo's. What "wrong" would be committed by having dogs down from fighting lineage. I simply embrace the history that made these dogs what they are, and chose to obtain my pets with that lineage as close up as I could find.

English bulldogs were used for the illegal act of Bullbaiting, yet it's the history of such that made them great and popular pets. They symbolize courage, BECAUSE of the battles they historically fought.

Just like many people like to get thier pet beagles from hunters, as they are healtheir happier individuals, and truer representitives of what a beagle should be.

Would owning a karelian bear dog get me charged with illegal bear hunting with dogs? You cant hunt bear with dogs where I'm at...

I could get off any of those rediculous charges without a lawyer.

BUT as I said, try and convince a judge or jury, that the DIRECT DNA from your dog that was found at the scene of a dog fight, and linked through CODA is there for any other then illegal reasons...

Thats where the people engaged in illegal activities are IMMEDIATLY f#cked.

This could happen tomorrow:

HSUS comes to visit and demands swabs from all of your bulldogs.

They run them through the CODA system and BANG: MATCH

Your dog "Rover" took a crap at this barn, which was the scene of a dog fight bust. Your dog rover just got you sent to jail...

Now you're going to need a DAMN GOOD and EXPENSIVE lawyer to get you off of that charge, if you even can.

Best of luck to those who still engange.

 

Anyone think its odd that ADBA was the first to start collection game dogs DNA and now this? Dont forget, they sold part of their mailing list to the humane society so they could send everyone a reward/bounty thing in the mail to snitch.

 

Ok, let me get this right. I buy a dog from a litter of 12 whom I am going to assume all have the same DNA since they all came from the same parents:rolleyes:. Now my local neighborhood Jackass gets lucky enough to happen to know the same game dog breeder that I do:confused: and he goes out and matches his dog and just so happens to leave a lil DNA at the scene of the crime, even after all that washing that goes on at such events, myself and 10 other unlucky SOB's who brought a dog from that litter are now all sitting down town at central booking:confused:? Only in America!!! LMAO!!! Dont get me wrong, I love my country, even fought for it, TWICE!!! But Damn, Where in the hell are we headed!!!!!?

 

Here is the key to your quote, and unfortunately it is being dismantled daily...

I don't do anything illegal, but I still find this potentially threatening and concerning. I see the potential for abuse and misuse...

 

Socializim........facism.........communism!!!!!

 

Now i have the key for you ,

find yourself some other breeds , cause an abpt will always be a fighting dog .

 

I do nothing remotely illegal with my dogs but...

Shit... we ALL shouldn't even be posting on this forum... you know how easy it would be to get all our IP addresses (and thus every bit of other info about us)

I know this... the folks who come on here and talk all that match results crap are gonna be the first....

 

SOD, why don't you just paint a giant bullseye on your ass and bend over?

You have the common sense of a fool..

 

Yardboy gets it... welcome to the fascist world regime.

 

Mindbernder,
You wouldn't be catching any heat for that because littermates wouldn't have identical DNA.

Now what Minuteman posted hadn't even occurred to me.

 

This is serious buisness. infact I have sent out emails to every registry that I could think of about this issue. I encourage every one else to do the same if you have not already.

 

http://www.dailydem ocrat.com/ news/ci_15336569

UC Davis launches dog-fighting DNA database
Created: 06/20/2010 05:44:30 AM PDT



The nation's first criminal dog-fighting DNA database has been established by the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, the Humane Society of Missouri and the Louisiana SPCA, and will be maintained at the UC Davis Veterinary Genetics Laboratory.
Known as the Canine CODIS (Combined DNA Index System), the database is designed to help the criminal justice system investigate and prosecute dog-fighting cases.
"Dog fighting is a multimillion dollar criminal enterprise that leads to the cruel treatment and deaths of thousands of dogs nationwide every year," said Tim Rickey, the ASPCA's senior director of Field Investigation and Response and former Animal Cruelty Task Force director at the Humane Society of Missouri.
"This database is an unprecedented and vital component in the fight against animal cruelty and will allow us to strengthen cases against animal abusers and seek justice for their victims," he said. The Canine CODIS contains individual DNA profiles from dogs that have been seized during dog-fighting investigations and from unidentified samples collected at suspected dog-fighting venues. This includes 400 original and initial samples of dog DNA supplied by the Humane Society of Missouri and collected from dogs that were seized in July 2009 during the nation's largest dog-fighting raid. The database is similar to the FBI's human CODIS, a computerized archive that stores DNA profiles from criminal offenders and crime scenes and is used in criminal and DNA analysis and matching through the canine database, available for a fee only to law enforcement agencies, will help to identify relationships between dogs. This will enable investigators to establish connections between breeders, trainers and dog-fight operators.
Blood collected from dog fighting sites also will be searched against the Canine CODIS database to identify the source. Beth Wictum, director of the forensics unit of the Veterinary Genetics Laboratory in UCDs' School of Veterinary Medicine, said that the lab has one of the largest sample databases in the world, which is crucial for estimating the rarity of a DNA profile. She noted that the Canine CODIS database is unique because it includes many more DNA markers than are normally tested.
"That provides greater power when calculating match probability or assigning parentage," Wictum said. "When these cases come to trial, it's important to make your strongest case. The DNA evidence not only establishes links between owners, breeders and dog fighting sites, it also tells a story," she noted.
"We can tie blood spatter on pit walls and clothing, or blood trails found outside of the pit, to a specific dog and tell his story for him," Wictum said. "We become the voice for those victims."

 

Now I posted this earlier. It's my first and prob one of my only post. But I want to drive at the heart of the issue. Constitution or not whatever happened to Freedom.

I'm a descendant of a long line of dogmen and been observing the evolution of the game. Watching the overt way the sissy's have taken their place. They have slowly rooted out what has truly made us American. First they took the guns and now the dogs.
This is my first post and I wont post much. It took me 3 years of observing before I got the nerve to get an account because of my fear of big brother and the g-men.
Us Black Americans (not african americans) direct descendants of slaves and native Americans have been the guardians and builders of the true American spirit. We don't want no british no europeans no war no hate just to be left the hell alone. It use to be that way with you red's,anglo white men.
But the way you've let them of no freedom (euro's) go off and just get in their own way. They're in Alabama they're on Animal planet shipping dogs up to us in the north east. They are issuing licenses for owning a dog. Insurance it's enough.

They're going to euthanize that mans, no that families group of dogs and their going to do it sooner rather than later. It's not the inner cities it's not the pants hanging to the floor crowd, no it's the euro's coming shipping their logic and taking over your way of life. We know how to hide ours we've always had to, it's going to be a sad day when you have to as well. The euro's (that includes the spanish native south americans we call mexicans) They are to afraid of freedom. They went after Mike Vick because it was easy to desensitize the masses to the lack of due process. They took the dogs first, then his property knowing no would stand up and fight. Now it's open season.

Their is no regulating freedom.


P.S. in China they eat dogs, who has the right to tell another man how to live. I for one do not condone fighting dogs, but would never tell another man how to live.

Especially when I admire and want to own the fruits of their LABOR.

PPS Just for clarification not meaning to offend any race but as long as someone speaks of their origin prior to being an American they are missing some sense of the word. Freedom.
I am also just trying to define in the clearest terms possible the look of an enemy of freedom

 

WTF???:confused: