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All true just reading it though is funny as hell. But ya you should beat his ass until you got him running to his crate.

 

Seriously? I though I used compulsion too much...

 

Real smart Jelet, beat the dog senseless whenever he shows a warning that he is going to snap - that way he learns to not growl and give a warning before he rips someone's head off next time.

You are a fucking idiot telling someone to STOMP on a 7 month old puppy for showing a sign that it wants to be left alone. All you are teaching is for him to suppress any warning before an attack.

If you are going to give stupid advice, at least manage to tell the person to give the correction on the correct trigger (an attempt to bite). This dog sounds messed up enough already, without you adding in stupid advice that will only make matters worse.

To the person who started this thread - seriously, the dog needs to be taught who is boss, but damn near stomping its brains out of its head is not the way to do that. My dogs know I am boss without me having to result to turning into a raging out of control ape. All Jelet is showing is that he doesn't know the correct way to handle a dog, so instead he has to beat them half to death until they are in the corner shitting and pissing themselves out of fear to get the same results most people can get with training.

 

well if it works for him then why are you bitching? not all dogs can be treated the same with the same result...and just so you know alot of game dogs dont give a warning they just do it...gamebred dogs dont fight for dominance or to be left alone they do so because they like it and it was bred into them for 200 + yrs, and warnings were bred out of them thats why you here about the historic dogs "screaming" in there corner to get to the opponent..thats not a warning is excitement...and the OP's dog isnt JUST growling he's full on attacking him so if the dog is going outta its way to attack him when he walks past it when its eating it does need to get physically controlled...i dont know what line you run or how they act but you dont know what Jelets running either so maybe his advice goes perfectly with the dogs he has raises..

 

Typical liberal response. Are you that poorly-bred that mama didn't teach you better than that? The dog will NOT bite without giving warning if you beat it if it growls. You are 100% wrong. It would not bite its master PERIOD or GROWL if it is TAUGHT who is in charge.

HAVE YOU EVER STOMPED OR BEAT A PUPPY? Obviously not, because if you did.. you would realize that it works!


So why are you talking shit about my advice if you have NEVER tried it.

 

Ok I've got to agree that slapping the dog til it bleeds won't make it stop growling before it bites your face off but I don't agree that it's the right approach. And don't get me wrong I am not a click or treater.

 

Have you ever slapped a dog till it bleeds? So how do you know that it wont work? idiot. And slapping a dog doesnt make it bleed or stomping on it.

 

Alright. Have you ever tried to use a leash correction without putting fists on the dog and had it work? I have. If I am going to use compulsion for a serious offense like this I always use a dominant dog collar. Fast easy and always works.

 

i will say this one sounds far beyond some leash correction. i wouldnt stomp it, but i sure as hell wouldnt be worried about this dog becoming "handshy"

 

Ok I see where you are coming from. When I say leash correction in this particular case I don't mean a POP or a tshhhh Ceasar style. A dominant dog collar to 'hang' the dog (and keep the OP from a bite) a few times MIGHT help. Again, not there, can't see it, don't know the full story. The OP doesn't sound by their posts to know how to keep the dog from biting on a correction, a dominant dog collar would solve the bleeding. I just have a hard time thinking punching a puppy will accomplish anything other than fear of the owner whereas a dominant dog collar and oxygen cutoff will teach a puppy this person controls not just my toys, food, going out, but also my OXYGEN.

 

This is a difficult situation- I've heard that NILF is something that works.

do you crate? How about putting the bowl in front of the crate and only let him come for the food when he's not acting up. Also, try putting him on a leash or muzzle...let him near the food bowl when he's not growling. If he lets you come near the bowl and is relaxed, take the muzzle off.

 

i can only imagine that the dog then will become fearful of the owner grabbing its collar, thinking that its going to get choked. and will panic any time someone grabs its collar etc. and im pretty sure that cutting of the dogs or even humans oxygen supply by choking is going to have some health affects.. just google "lack of oxygen affects" or "holding in breath affects" and so on... compared to a simple temporary pain from a good punch. these dogs were bred for the [ ]. A human punch aint going to do any harm to them. would you rather get punched or bit ? exactly.. punching an apbt is a joke if one thinks "aww poor dog" these dogs are tough animals.

BUT i can understand where Adivina is coming from, as she owns unknown rescue dogs that are mixed.... so thats why it probably wont work with her dogs. nothing wrong with rescue dogs, but they have different temperaments than the real APBT.

but i could be wrong. but this dog doesnt look pure bred to me... ( nothing wrong with it. its a cool looking dog)


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so i can understand that this mix does not have the pain tolerance as a pit bull would...

So I can understand your reasoning Adivina. but u need to understand that your dog is not a pit bull and my advice is for pit bull owners. not weak pain tolerance mixed dog owners..

 

Well, this is my first time owning this breed so I won't say no to any training method. A dominant dog collar lift (by leash not collar) is fast and not to the extent that the dog passes out just enough that it realizes you are in control and is far away enough to not get you with teeth.

I personally won't punch my dogs but I can't tell anyone else what to do. I've been learning non stop since I got this breed so I can't say what I think today won't change tomorrow. A couple of months ago if someone told me a bully breed was harder to handle than a working malinois I would have laughed, I've stopped laughing now.

 

What the board needs to think about is that the OP, most likely does not have the heart to tune this dog up appropriately. The dog has learned that this behavoir gets the dessired results. This is likely a first time owner with little handling experience. Telling the OP to kick the shit out of this dog is not going to solve the issue, infact it could put the OP and dog in a bad space where the owner gets mauled.

The type of trainer that I suggest the OP to look for, is one that deals specifficly with gaurdian type breeds( As this level and type of trainer will not be easily intimidated while giving your dog a fair shake). I also suggest a trainer that can do a board and train , removing the OP from the dogs head long enough to recondition it's perception and role it takes in this world. Dogs like this are not for the novice and what the OP may have to come to terms with is. Some dogs don't make pets despite our best efforts.

Be safe and don't let your animal bite you any more! crate him when you feed, till you can get some help.

 

Well said/summed up simms!

 

agreed 100%

 

LOL your complaining about beatin that dogs ass but people were sayin give it a dirt nap i would think a good couple beatings would be better then pluggin a 7 month old pup.

 

enough said...thread should have been closed after that post.i have zero tolerance for HA especially at 7months and neither should any of you!

 

Too many good dogs out there to let him get away with that.

 

If had a had a 7month old pup trying to full on attack me,he and i would be getting some shit strait right then and there.I don't have the pateince to get on a computer and ask for suggestions on a situation like that.If he tried that shit again Lee D is right .22 shells are very cheap.