Box dogs that went into shock?

The box dogs in the pass history i here these story's from old timers about dogs that went into shock, so these dogs going into shock is because of them over heating or the biting punishment there are taking or what, what reason for them going in to shock?

 

They go into shock for many reasons. Poor conditioning, length of time in the box, blood loss, punishment, choosing to light of a pit weight, starving the dog down to weight, of course a lot of this is part of bad conditioning. Conditioning is a major part of it. Also picking the dog up to late or leaving him down to long. However you want to spin it.

 

hard to tell if it was an all out war. if the dog went in early it was probably due to heat but if it was clearly chewed up and spit out you could probably chalk it up to punishment.

or it could be a combination of factors. bad keep and the dog wasn't physically ready. this slowed it down and it took a lot of damage.

 

Shock is simply the bodies reaction to the loss of blood voulme. Poor conditioning, the wrong weight and so on may cause heat exhuastion or heat stroke, but not shock. Many people lump it all in catergory. Leaving one down to long is a good way to loose one to shock.

 

disagree on the blood loss for shock magna'......there have been dogs that have went into shock within 10mins of starting....and not any amount of bloodloss.....then there are cases of car accidents.....its a case of alot of factors....not blood loss on its own....

 

10 minutes, noway jose.

 

I guess if you hit the right artery or vein it could take less than ten minutes.

 

not shock.

 

imo poor handling is the biggest factor when it comes to shock. folks don't know what it looks like so they left them down too long. it is gradual & don't usually hit full on all of a sudan so it's up to the handling to prevent it. lots of reasons they go into shock but i believe the reasons all ready given are primary causes.

 

In 10 shit that dog health had to be real shitty

 

How long would it take you to go down if someone hit your juglar. I know dogs are tough, but their circ. system is alot like ours.

 

a dog can also go into shock from loss of blood

 

Not trying to be a smart ass but, 1) you should think before you type. 2) do some research if you want facts, if you want opinions ask the public.

 

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First of all, WHAT IS SHOCK? Shock is a series of physiological responses to an injury, trauma, or accident. It is a state of collapse, that is, the body's circulatory system begins to shut down. Severe damage, even death, can result. Severe stress caused by injury, auto accident, infection, heat prostration, dehydration, or blood loss, any of these can put your dog into shock.
Some signs that your dog may be in shock are a rapid heartbeat; little or irregular pulse; and the body temperature will be below the normal level. Check your dog's mouth-the tongue may appear curled and gums will be pale, almost a gray color.
If you believe your dog is in shock, QUICK ACTION IS ESSENTIAL. Call your VET immediately to say that you are transporting your dog; then go! (If you have someone to be your "driver" you will be free to assist your dog during the trip.) Intravenous fluids and other medications must be administered as soon as possible, so get your dog to the vet as soon as possible.
Any animal that suffers a traumatic experience can go into "shock". When a puppy is in a state of shock their pulse will be fast but weak and their breathing shallow and irregular. Their skin will be pale, cold to the touch but they will sweat profusely. To help the circulation of the blood to the brain you should lay the puppy dog with its head slightly lower than the rest of its body. Do not give the dog anything to drink until the veterinarian has checked it. Never give a puppy in shock any alcohol to drink. If the puppy is very cold you can cover it with something light to keep its body temperature at normal. If possible, seek immediate medical attention as shock can sometimes be a symptom of something life threatening.ffice:office" /><O:p></O:p>

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Well Peppa, it depends what you mean by "shock" people throw that around a lot but they don't understand what shock really means. Magna is on the right track.

Shock is hypoperfusion, you go into shock when your body is no longer able adequately circulate blood to the bits and pieces that need it. There are different types of "shock" but it all amounts to a lack of volume for the circulatory system. It doesn't hafta be specifically from blood loss, but hemorrhagic shock is probably what you'd see in dogs during or after a match. There's also what's called neurogenic shock, which the result of damage to the nervous system that results in uncontrolled vasodilatation below the site of injury, which again is a problem with circulating volume; an expanded container (dilated circulatory system) holding the same amount of fluid (circulating blood volume) is going to experience a decrease in pressure. Severely dehydrating a dog is going to reduce his circulating blood volume too, bringing him that much closer.

But when you roll up on scene of a traffic accident and this lady is walking around all spun up and flustered and she says "I'm still in shock," what she REALLY means is she's scared, nervous, anxious, angry, emotionally traumatized... she could actually be a number of things, but if she's walking around saying this to you then then she's probably not really in "shock"

 

For the OP, dogs that went into shock during matches (I'd assume) were most likely from loss of blood combined with an already decreased volume from dehydration in preparation for the fight.

I'm sure heat stroke and poor conditioning stopped some good dogs too.

 

Leaving him down.
I see this happen all the time people depending on gameness is one main reason. Him showing gameness is too close to death, shock is the culprit more then likely when he goes Dead Game.

If it appears the animal cant turn things around and just isnt in the others class you need to just pickup because it will only get worse. No need to let them take your money and your dog.

 

You also have to remember that in a lot of the old stories, the dogs traveled long distances and became dehydrated and sometimes were not used to a certain match weight.

 

there are many types of shock, for the situation we are talking about i would agree with magno on this one. I think that a lot of peole might say their dog is in shock when it really might be heat exhaustion or something else. they are NOT the same thing.

 

shock is defined as a condition where the tissues in the body don't receive enough oxygen and nutrients to allow the cells to function. This ultimately leads to cellular death, progressing to organ failure and finally, to whole body failure and death.

hypovolemic shock is resulted from blood loss.
cardiogenic shock is from damage to the heart.
nuerogenic shock is from damage to the spinal cord or brain.
obstructive shock can come from pnuemothorax (punctured lung) or hemothorax (bleeding in lungs or chest cavity )
acute adrenal insufficiency can cause shock, this can come from not gradually lowering the dose of corticosteroids(dexamethasone) given to an animal