Castillo's dogs

Thanx anyway but both dogs have PROVEN to be excellent representatives of the blood that flows thru their veins!

 

Sorry NorCal but I figured you want to hand pick mine that I could hand pick yours. Sorry also for thinking your money is green like everyone else's...the Rebel schooled me on that one...LOL! Feel free to privately like I did call out any of mine...I got more #s than Pablo Escobar!...LOL!

 

That's great Julia! You're such a veteran dog man! I'm sure you got more #'s than Pablo Escobar!

I called on you to bring Danger out to play! Isnt that your prize possesion? The most accomplished OFRN in the history of the strain? In order to be the best... you gotta beat the best! So bring that mutt out to play! But for you to choose an unschooled yearling that has never played shows your confidence in your Danger or lack there of! Just like Maury says... "YOU ARE NOT" the seasoned veteran that you claim to be.

 

My specimens stay READY...I know you saw the pics! I don't run my mouth and not PREPARED! How many excuses did you make when I called you out privately?...to many to name! I figured if you were gonna throw good money behind bad money by buying dogs from Arizona Red Rock and Morgan I too wanted some EASY CASH! You know the number...don't DOUBT IT CROWD IT!

 

im interested to see what you got norcalred since crazyhorse already showed what he's got. not instigating here its just that in alot of these forum debates for the ofrn strain people always end up showing off amstaffs or bullies. im impressed by your dog crazyhorse and if he is proven more power to you. i have a 50% ofrn strain dog so she does not qualify for me to put her up here but she has proven herself more than once to be the perfect bulldawg IMO.
i believe that this thread has potential to spark an interest in some on the gamebred ofrn dogs so if you got the real thing show them off

 

Bx you will have a better chance of seeing Elvis and winning the lottery if NorCal had to post a PROVEN dog! He's got some BULLSHIT OFRN dogs down from Arizona Red Rock and Morgan. Just like the many BULLSHIT breeders in his dogs pedigree he is following suit! Just like damn near all the dogs in his peds his dogs are the same UNPROVEN!

 

BX... I'm not fronting about what I have! My dogs are still young and may have to lose before I can gain but I aint on here lying about shit! I could come on here and post that my dog is proven but the truth is one is only a yearling and the female just made 2 yrs. When the day comes whether they check out or not... I will be truthful and honest about it with no hard feelings.

female- http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=343792
male- http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=301556
My Plan- http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=343769

 

how are them flametree dogs? isnt that a show line?
well good luck with your dogs once they are mature

 

Flametree doesnt breed from a working stand point and I knew this but I have no plans on using him for anything especially if he cant pull his weight! My planned stuff is what is gonna be the true test and that is where I'm getting alot of the rock throwing from certain individuals. I choose a direction and certain individuals think I need ther approval.

 

are you speaking about this breeding?
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [343769] :: 2010 NORCAL REDS BREEDING

 

I have his brother if you want him!
Now walk it!

 

No but you are criticizing the wrong person's breeding and bloodline.
Now I'm done dancing around.
I prefer the mentor so you will see through the haze of the cloud of BS fuming from the pile!
Don't criticize unless you want to make the play!
This is kid shit!
Lets take this private............

 

Fine, you do then I settle for the Mentor.

Benthere, you should have done it a long time ago when Ben B. posted about dry snitching.
I see it is still going down.......
You have my vote!

DONE, OVER AND OUT! CLOSE IT BUD!

 

NorCal you RAN your MOUTH and you weren't prepared. I called you in private after you tried to hand pick one of mine so isn't it fair I picked one of yours? Besides the littermates to your dog are being bred and by the way you were running your mouth I thought your male was ready. Funny age wasn't one of the excuses you used and if my memory is correct your words were "you and me both know Rooty ain't that kind of quality."...these were your exact words.

What confused me was you were acting like that female from Morgan was any different, 25+ years and no winners! right now I'm trying to figure out why she is different from what ARR has done?

I gave you a list of atleast 10 kennels who have my dogs feel froggy Vanilla Rice?... crowd it! Like all the rest of OFRN pet owners your history will be told just like all the BULLSHIT dogs and BULLSHIT breeders in your peds.

BTW I don't dislike your mentor and I respect what he is trying to do. No way would I breed a TRICKED off OFRN line and can only come up with a spot achievement here and there over the course of 20+ years...atleast he is trying. i do know this though, I don't consider him on my level wheteher its everything from conditioning to breeding. My dogs don't need a cross to be complete dogs...I can inbreed mine and be SUCCESSFUL. my success shouldn't be a suprise...let me clue you in on something Vanilla...my dogs have been bred by the most SUCCESSFUL OFRN breeder in HISTORY...can you say the same?

 

LOL...there's def. dry snitching in this thread!

 

NorCal remember when you were swinging from Old Family Kennels' nuts? Your broke ass couldn't afford a dog afeter you paid your property taxes...just like your mentor...LOL. Maybe this will refresh your memory.

Re: OFRN Pups‏
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=ReadMsgHeaderCol1>From:</TD><TD><S app="WEBIM" for="P___1707043842" email="al_aragon@comcast.net"></S> al_aragon@comcast.net </TD></TR><TR><TD class=ReadMsgHeaderCol1>Sent:</TD><TD>Sat 4/11/09 10:56 AM</TD></TR><TR><TD class=ReadMsgHeaderCol1>To: </TD><TD>Julius Ammons (oldfamilykennels@hotmail.com)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<META content="Microsoft SafeHTML" name=Generator><STYLE>.ExternalClass p{;}</STYLE>Hey Julias,

Sorry I didnt reply sooner. I'm unable to give you a deposit for the Danger/Razberry breeding of the Danger/Berry breeding. I had to pay my property taxes this week and that set me back. I will be ready for any breeding after these. Or... if you have any pups left in the Danger/Berry breeding due in mid June... I still might be interested. My finances will be better by that time. Please keep me informed on any of your upcoming breedings so that I will be more prepared. Also I'd love to chit chat with you if you have any free time out of your busy schedule. Thanks!

Al Aragon
510.772.1085

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julius Ammons" <oldfamilykennels@hotmail.com>
To: "al aragon" <al_aragon@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:35:18 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: OFRN Pups

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I don't know when I will be breeding Scarlet to be honest with you. This is the reason why I decided to breed Berry instead to cut the waiting list down.

I appreciate your honesty and if you are intrested I will put you on the list for something out of Berry. I haven't posted the breeding on my website yet but when I do there will be alot of people intrested. Here is the link to the Danger/Razberry breeding and Danger/Berry breeding.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=265682

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=224289

I will be taking deposits($500) on Friday April 3rd. from those on the waiting list. I can't promise what sex but I can promise a pup if you want to be added to the list. Let me know ASAP because once that breeding posts it may be to late.

Feel free to call me anytime to discuss any questions you may have.

Julius



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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:36:01 +0000
From: al_aragon@comcast.net
To: oldfamilykennels@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: OFRN Pups


<STYLE>.ExternalClass p{;}</STYLE>Hey Julius,

Thanks for the info on Morgan. This is not the first time I've heard negative things on him. Now I'm convinced. Although I love my girl that I got from him, she will probably end up being a house dog. My wife and kids are too attached to her.

You were saying that a female might be available in your next breeding with Scarlet? How many are in line in front of me for a female pup? Approximately when will the breeding take place? I'd probably be interested in a male also from a different breeding out of Danger. I totally understand you not wanting any of your dogs to be bred with any of Morgan's dogs. I'm a man of my word and I guarantee that would never happen! I've been a fan of the OFRN dogs for over 20 years and only now that I have the opportunity of possibly owning the best OFRN dogs in the land. I'm not a fast lane guy but would love a couple dogs of that quality. Please keep me on your email list and inform me of your breedings!

Thanks!

Al Aragon
(510)772-1085

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julius Ammons" <oldfamilykennels@hotmail.com>
To: "al aragon" <al_aragon@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:17:42 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: OFRN Pups

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I want to be very clear with my next statement. I NEVER want my dogs bred to Morgan's Hemphill/Wilder dogs. Morgan hasn't maintained his dogs correctly in 24+ years now. The only thing he has maintained is an ad in every Gazette since 1985.

I have an email from Morgan where he states he didn't improve his dogs because of kennel blindness. I have seen first hand with my own two eyes the quality of a Frank?Diesel female and still pics of a male from the same litter. The female quit in 9 minutes and the male in under 20 minutes.

I don't mean to be rude but not all Geronimo II based OFRN dogs are equal. If you ever question just look at the ped and if you don't see a real dogman in the first 4 generations...pass...it will save you some time and money in the long run.

I will not be breeding Scarlet until maybe next heat. If you are still intrested depending on the litter size and sexes a female might be available. Depending on the litter the price will be $2000 and up.

Julius


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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:44:49 +0000
From: al_aragon@comcast.net
To: oldfamilykennels@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: OFRN Pups


<STYLE>.ExternalClass p{;}</STYLE>Hey Julius!
Thanks for the reply. I have a female from Mike Morgan out of CH Morgan/CH Willow. I would love to get a male companion for her. I've been a fan of the OFRN's for over 20 years. I'd be very interested in a pup out of your "Scarlet" bitch. My girl "Angel" from Morgan looks very similar to her. I really like Scarlets ped.

Do you have other pics of Danger? Is he dark red or is he more on the chocolate side? Please let me know when those pups will be available or any other future breedings with Scarlet.

Thanks,
AL Aragon

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=104613

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julius Ammons" <oldfamilykennels@hotmail.com>
To: "al aragon" <al_aragon@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 4:42:05 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: OFRN Pups

<STYLE>.ExternalClass .EC_MsgBody-text, .ExternalClass .EC_MsgBody-text EC_*{font:10pt monospace;}</STYLE><STYLE>.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P{padding:0px;}.ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}</STYLE>Hey Al

Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner. I have been having problems with this email addy. I'm glad those dogs from Ironline worked out for you, I know I.M. well.

I bred Danger to his best daughter Razberry last month and bred Danger to Berry on the 20th, 22nd and again oth 24th and 26th. I do have a waiting list for my pups and depending on the sizes of the litters I'm not sure if the people on the waiting list will have pups. My dogs are expensive but come with a guarantee I think no other breeder offers. I take pride in getting people an excellent dog.

Shoot me a ped of the dogs you have now.

Julius

<HR id=ecxEC_EC_stopSpelling>Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:36:56 +0000
From: al_aragon@comcast.net
To: OLDFAMILYKENNELS@HOTMAIL.COM
Subject: OFRN Pups

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To Whom It May Concern:

Hello. My name is Al Aragon. I'm interested in purchasing an OFRN pup from your kennel. I noticed the name Norrod on the pedigrees and got very excited. I purchased 2 pups from Ironline Kennels back in 1996-97 off of CH Gambler but cant remember the female. My female just past away about 5 months ago due to complications of an illness. If you have OFRN pups on the ground could you send pics and details of purchase. I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks!

Al Aragon
(510)772-1085

 

Do you remember when you couldnt sell the pup I was inquiring about and you offered it to me for $250 down from $2500. LMFAO! You aint proving nothin by posting this shit! Atleast I got property taxes to pay unlike yourself who claims to be a mortgage broker. You aint foolin nobody you fucking convict. Your so fucking full of your own shit. How can you be a mortgage broker if you've been to prison? You're not even eligable for a license to be a broker if you've been to prison. How do I know? Because I've got felonies also you fuckin doe doe bird! You know it's not that hard to find out info on anyone. So you see fuckface you are the one who is exposed! Dont get your bitchass feelings hurt just cause you got your ass exposed you wannabe dogman. You are on path to be the biggest nobody in the dog game. Truth is you live in an apartment with your fat ass white bitch. Just like a typical low life brotha! Why dont you go advertise your shit in Dog Fancy or Dog World so you can be the second biggest puppy peddler!