New Mayday pup scared to play with bigger older pup.

It's just a pup and it is it's first day. Don't worry about it to much.

 

while i agree with your post Wardog, i dont understand why the poster is concerned with the dog being a cur in the first place, and for 2, he claims this isnt his first dog so id think hed realize just how silly of a question it is.

 

*standing ovation!*

 

There was a time when APBT and "gamebred" were synonymous. When did this change?.... oh yeah now I remember, it changed when WE (breeders) started selling dogs to non-dogmen,,,,for the love of money.

The best thing that could ever happen to this breed would be to make it ilegal to sell any dogs of the breed. That way we would be forced to keep and actually use all we bred. Would love to see how many folks breed them then.

Sorry folks I guess I'm just getting old and don't have as much patience as I once did. Sadly I see a very bleak future for this breed.

 

Quiet with that mess! I've got first dibbs on the box-bunny.

 

Seriously man, that "open mouth, insert foot" approach of yours could use a fine tuning.

 

Mine was the same way but once she hit 6 months all hell broke loose. One day she just up and threw down her playmate Peaches (a 1 year old pitmix) They got into it atleast three diffrent times before it left us rotating the girls for their own good.
thing is you never really know if you have a cur until they reach 6 to 8 months in my opinion then they either have game and heart or they don't.

 

No Gorilla as a matter of fact I do not exactly practice what I preach. I did sell a dog around 7 years ago to a friend, a 4 year old male. Other than that though we have everything we ever bred still.

Things today have changed alot though and you have folks saying such ridiculous things like you don't know if you have a cur until a pup is 6 or 8 months old and things of that nature. So,,, just because I do not do exactly as I say it doesn't mean what I say is wrong, and I do take blame for being part of the problem.

 

throwing the 6 to 8 month thing in there is directing 'that' statement at me which I take offense.

((So I will voice what I have to say not really caring if I get booted from this forum. ))

So what, so when you buy a puppy (no matter what the breed is) you know right away if it is da or ha? if it is going to be a gr ch? do you know right away if it is game? NO! I state 6 to 8 months because within this time the dogs true colors start to show, it is maturing and everyone knows this. MY DOG was the same damn way when i got her at 7 weeks old, shy and scared and looked to me for protection (Every baby does). She is now da and has a high game personality at 8 months old and I would gladly tell you my dog isnt a cur nor would I really give two rats a$$es if she were. She is petbull and soon to be a pulling dog. bite your tongue about other peoples opinions instead of running off and calling other people's OPINIONS ridiculous,have an open mind about possablilities.

what I state COULD or COULDNOT be true (Most dog owners can't tell IF they have a cur right away (Lab GSD, pit, jrt) doesnt matter the breed you never truely know until they start maturing to tell what personality they really have. LIKE EVERYONE ELSES OPINIONS on here even the most knowledable apbt owner can easily state what I have and know that this is very true.
I'm not saying this persons dog will be the same as all dogs are diffrent. I stated what HAPPENED with my dog

 

True colors start to show at 6-8months? Its still very much a puppy, anyone who works any kind of dogs can tell you that. Thats like proclaiming a toddler the next middleweight champ of the world because he might be a bit rough with his preschool classmates.

You're entitled to your opinion but it sounds very flawed to me.

 

Megger I appologize for offending you, I would like to say it wasn't my intention but that would not be true. I understand now that you have no idea what gameness is or how it is determined in a dog. If you did you would understand why I took offense to your comment about 6-8 month old pups being game.

I sincerely hope you receive great satisfaction from your pup and maybe that will lead you to learn about the breed you own, its history and why it is so much different than any other breed of dog on earth.

Also, I see no reason whatsoever for you to be kicked off this board. You are entitled to your opinion and to voice it just as much as anyone else is. This is what was stated in a piece of paper that was written a long time ago and used to govern how things were done called the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Freedom is the most valuable comodity a person can have but it does not come without sacrifice and in order to keep our freedom we must be ready to allow others who we do not agree with to enjoy it as we do.
Feel free to criticize me or even insult me if you wish as that is your God given RIGHT and no one should ever take that from you.

 

I had a littermate sister to Machobuck and she was shy as hell when I first got her at the age of 2 1/2. She stayed shy for 6 months or so. She wouldnt walk on the leash or nothing. When I took her to my main yard at the time, she loosened up around the other dogs and was wide open. There are always many variables.

When I got my male down off Machobuck/Damian/Ladydoll....he had never been off the farm, never been in a car, and it took him months to adjust to his surroundings. But he is hot as hell now at 18 months or so.

I also had a Pure RBJ dog aff Toejam, she was wide open from the day I got her. Of course, thats always nice when its right off the bat. Doesnt mean she was better or worse than any other dog in the end.

 

I'm not even going to get into the 6 to 8 months thing. That's just too easy. I do have to ask about the getting into it at least three times before you figured out they needed separating. You did realize that forgive and forget really isn't in their nature, right? After the first, ok, I'll give you after the second altercation, what did you believe was going to happen?

 

Alot of people seem to think that agression and gameness are the same things. They have absolutely nothing to do with eachother and in fact there is an old saying that went,, "early to start, early to quit".
I do not believe that saying to be completely true however it serves to show that gameness and agression are two completely different things.

 

i guess my grandma's chihuhua was game cause it jumped on a another dog a few yrs back. this to me is defending territory, might be dog aggressive and all dogs have some sort of da in them some just have to be pushed more than others. game is far from da. just cause two dogs will scrap does not make them game. and all true apbt lines never mature at the same age. some earlier, some later, but just cause at 6mos or 15mos it gets tired of being picked on and stands up for itself does not make it game. jmo there is only one true way to test for gameness and as of 1976 it is suppose to be illegal.

and a pup is different from every breeder, depends on how much pup was socialized from birth and what time was spent with pup. just cause tucks tail dont mean anything. i had a jeep dog that tucked tail at 2 yrs old, 6 mos later was different story. you have to be patient with these dogs and imo that is what got micheal vick in trouble wasnt patient enough, wanted glory from his dogs before they where ready, jmo, wasnt there, but from what i have heard led me to my opinion

 

one other thing, i agree some people on here and not on here need to be educated, but get educated before you get whatever breed you are looking for and that way nothing bad happens to owner or dog. every breed is different and you cant ask a poodle owner how to take care of apbt and vice- versa different requirements and behaviors

 

Perhaps it is nothing wrong in asking, but I must admit this kind of questions worries me.

 

just because you have a dog that had been is a scruffle with another dog does not mean your dog is game and all like wise you prolly have a 15min cur or less. you do realise what game is? let your dog go into another dog for 45 mins and see what happens

 

thats whats wrong with people and the breed these days . just because your dog got in a scuffle your dog is game .... and everyone thinks ther dog is BAd when its the farthest thing from game. my dog got in a 30 second scruffle , MY DOG IS GAME LMAO

 

Hm.. seems to me like some here think more or less uncontrolled dog aggressiveness in itself are something positive. And in a pup... 6-8 months are no more than pups imo. As said, but perhaps i did´nt say it but I do now then.. if you want plain dog aggressiveness many mutts will do, and early too. There are more than plenty of them.
Perhaps it looks cooler for some than a more timid dog, but how it works... could be another thing.