Top dogs in Europe?

Exactly, the rules made up in Eastern Europe are absolutely shit. They aren't used anymore really anyways, thank god most of the matches follow cajun rules now.

 

I believe that , but I'm willing to bet "they" aren't on here disputing these claims. I would like to think they feel it's about the competition dog's and it's "put up or shut up" no matter where you stand , stand behind your word and your dog win or lose.

 

I doubt anyone had a dog in Europe that could handle Grch Sam Jr., Grch Chillindrina or Ch. Carmela. Don't get me wrong I think there are great dogs everywhere but just because you don't see videos don't think that people on this side are just breeding for papers and money. I will say this for that people in the Balkans they took the curs from Holland and made them into contenders no matter where they go.

 

any reports of dogs being taken from Europe to USA for a hunt or vice versa?.

 

Most kennels over there don't follow the classic Cajun rules

 

Sam jr last match was VERY impressive.

 

In first, sorry fore my bad english
I don't tell any words about East breeders...
The best gamedogs lines are in US but some particulars and breeders often import good dogs here
The problem in Europe : Laws against american pit bull terrier ( they're banned in France for example ) and only Italy and Spain have ADBA gamedog....and the fucking bully fashion !!!!
Only thinking to real"gamedog" is prohibited here....

 

if you are a dogman from the 80,s and 90,s then you should know

 

i believe that back in those days BH made a trip..
He went back to the us with a L.

(just to awnser ur question T)

 

True say there..
dont kno about making them contenders.. but its a fact that the curs went over there.

ne one here remember a dog names Mad max ? he was imported from NL to yugo back in the mid 80's

 

really?if not for bad conditionning of the other camp he would have lost.

 

If a cow had balls it would be a bull. So whats your point? Bad conditioning??? the match was over 2 hours. Maybe his mouth had something to do with it or his pace? Maybe he just wear the dog out......

 

ask sam jr's owner. if sam had any mouth that day it would have been over in 30 min when the opponent blew out of gas.

 

The problem is you think I go by video's, this might be a projection of your own experience but that's in fact not where I based my words upon. I feel an undertone in your last sentence, so in a response to that I can say we probably took the same amount of curs and turned them to contenders, and I'm not just talking about dogs from the Balkan.

 

Hi there!

As it is with Yu there have been hig money imports from US that weren´t even worth feeding!

Hasn´t V. R. being beaten by Zinetti? What About Rebels Muggs the three Minute Jumper that was said by Ricky Jones to have killed his Bubba R. O. M. in a yard accident, how about Garners Frisco II that curred out? How about that Pat Patrick bitch that got her assed kicked by Outsiders Cigra within only Minutes?

I don´t think there are minor quality dogs in YU, maybe sometimes not so impressive pedigrees, some are a little scatterbred but always bred best to best! In the beginnings they didn´t know much about conditioning and aftercare but that´s years ago, so I do think they don´t have to fear to be compared with the dogs from the US.

The dogs from NL back in the days have been the source for the rest of Europe, so they deserve the biggest credit in what belongs to the breed in Europe aswell as the Balkans today.

Sure they have been fooled often enough but they improved rapidly over there!

Just remember as the game grew there it was war times and there have been many difficulties in their way!

So they deserve even more respect from where they started!

And for Dutch Game Jumba wasn´t a Gr. Ch. and not an Ch. aswell he is just a R. O. M. dog, he was the sire of one of the greatest litters ever!

Just check his producing record!

 

You only mention the losers man many winners come from the U.S. also. How about Bad Rosemary. So what some people got fooled by big names and spent alot of money for shit, happens all of the time I know some people who bought some dogs from the Balkans that were shit eaters, many of Anthonin's dogs that came state side were 10 minute curs. Did the people who bought those dogs think that they could purchase a dog and get an instant ch or grch? Wish it could be that easy.... no they had to work like everyone else. BTW how did Muggs produce? from the looks of it pretty good wasn't his grand daughter was female dog of the year in the Balkans last year? So they must have liked something about Muggs because they bred him? Oh and wasn't the the Balkans male D.O.Y. last year from heavy U.S. stock?

Male D.O.Y.
http://pedigree.pitbullworld.org/pedigree.pl?command=pedigree&id=29252
Female D.O.Y.
http://pedigree.pitbullworld.org/pedigree.pl?command=pedigree&id=21311

 

Hi there!

Nope!

Muggs son Muggy was bred way before they imported Muggs, after they saw him jump the wall all of his descendants had a pretty hard time, some of them even have been destroyed without giving them a try at all!

So Milan thought if Muggs was that kind of cur he just got lucky with his Ch. Muggy R. O. M. as he produced good and decent match dogs for him aswell as others!

So there have been more loosers than winners imported, some of them fancy pedigree dogs even haven´t been shown and just bred out the ass by their owners.

So they did import some good stuff yes, but where they stand now comes from their own efforts!

So I believe they have the right feeling in YU and they are cocky nerds in all aspects of life as I know them so be sure they don´t hesitate to bring their retired Gr. Ch.´s to the box if someone is calling them!

They are out for fame and they like to compete!

There was for example Pera´s Ch. Silver that was sent into Black Mup a killing machine that destroyed and killed all of his opponents in short order!

Many have been afraid meating this black beast, well Pera did, guess why? He was out for fame and glory and that´s just what he got!
He went with Silver against Floyd`s Gr. Ch. Sheyn one hell of a deep deep game dog and both did it because they wanted to be the best on the spot!

See their spirit??????

So I do believe they will improve more and more!

First step days are over they are matured and serious competition!

 

kill that noise it's half way shit over there. if it's done like Chika vs Bonya in europe that's pointless. match report from europe one got fanged normal 3ft drop & 5 min later red puts black on wood & it's over? i liked the red dog chika but it be nice to know if she is honest & if the black was a cur. if yall listen to all brown in a few years you'd really have something good.

 

thanks 4 nameing some doggs will look into it

 

Bonya lost a fang and was being way out classed by chika , who is a wrecking machine. In the match Bonya looked to be choked out or going into shock she made a courtesy. Chika is the real deal.