Just because a dog is blue is it bully

i can respect that

 

If ya got an APBT then say so. If ya got a Am Staff say so. If ya got a Staffy Bull say so, and if ya got an Am Bully say so.

Pit Bull does not technically or FORMALLY name ANY breed....it has come to be known by folks that know all the breeds as the collection of those 4 breeds. APBT folks use Pit Bull when referring to an APBT, but the bottom line is there is NO SUCH BREED AS "Pit Bull".

Pit bull is a term commonly used to describe several breeds of dog in the Molosser family. Many breed-specific laws use the term "pit bull" to refer to the modern American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and dogs with significant mixes of these breeds; however, a few jurisdictions also classify the modern American Bulldog and Bull Terrier as a "pit bull-type dog". The term can also refer to dogs that were known as "bull terriers" prior to the development of the modern Bull Terrier in the early 20th century.


So when referring to my girl I am careful to call her a Staff, where I call my boy an APBT....it emphasizes their is difference between the two breeds.

 

i agree 100%

 

the thing all them dogs have in common is they all eat and shit the same way

 

How many breeds of dogs have" Pit Bull" in their name? To the best of my knowledge there is only one. So when I hear "pit bull" that refers to APBT. No offense intended.

 

its not about the "pit bull" being in the name, its about the "pit bulls" in the news. most of em are mutts, so people NEED to start clearing this shit up. and we wonder why the damn public dont know a boxer from an APBT?

 

ok Woody, so are you trying to say that we should call every f'king dipshit mixed mutt a pitbull:eek::eek:??? or are you trying to say that we should inform the public of the difference? either way, i agree that the public will NEVER understand...ever. but that doesn't mean that calling all those POS dogs "pitbulls" will help us at all....in the long run it will and IS HURTING US and OUR BELOVED BREED! if the media would just stop calling them pitbulls then who cares what retarded dogs bite people, as long as they're not APBT's, personally i dont at all.

 

You are correct APBT is the only breed with PB in the name. But it is in our best interests to make the public understand that the APBT in particular were bred to be "handled" in an excited state thus has an aversion to HA. It is the polluting of the APBT breeding that has brought on the "unstable" behavior, as we all know that a well bred APBT is bred to avoid HA tendencies. I understand that you hear PB and immediately associate the term with APBT, but JQP needs to know that these dogs when managed by the "keepers" of the breed produce a very stable product when it comes to mixing with people....people are their packs in most instances. Most people don't now this and are surprised when they hear it. Education is important IMO.

 

I don't want to speak for woody, but what I took from his post is he has no issue differentiating mutts from the APBT as they certainly are NOT the same breed, and he is absolutely correct. As he once told me "pit bull" is a silly term as it refers to NO one breed in particular so carries very little relevance to the APBT, I could not agree more. We cannot control the media, who can...but we can distance the APBT breed from the "mutts" that are of poor temperment when it comes to HA.

 

no, what im saying is we continue to confuse the public when we call PUREBRED animals "pitbulls". call them what they are, and this might help. the media is gonna call ALL of em "pitbulls", so do your part and represent your breed. wether it be Am Staff, Staffy bull, APBT, or even a Bully. isnt that part of the major gripe? Bully owners registering their dogs as APBTs? we need to practice what we preach and get specific

 

Hold on now, I wouldn't say completely false. I never said that either man Intended to produce bullies. However, the dogs they produced did serve as the inspiration for the bully. The thing about bully dogs is that as time goes on these dogs just get more and more exaggerated. Bully dog's 15 years ago were not really all that far outside of the UKC standard. Hell, a lot of them were UKC CH's and GRCH's. The point is Bully dogs didn't happen over night. There was a series of events that took place that led to the creation of the bully dog. And Casey wouldn't have had the following he did had he just chosen to let gamedogs be gamedogs and show dogs be show dogs. You take a Razors Edge dog and throw in some Redboy and what do you have? Nothing any respectable dog man would work with. JMO..:confused:

 

Not necessarilly.

 

Ewww those dogs look disgusting

 

i agree,front legs are too short,looks liek the backs are bowed from too much weight

 

War Paint: Here is a pic of my double bred granddaughter of Watchdog's Blue Glory:



As you can see, she is anything but bully. In fact, she was rather tall & rangy. Ironically, she also was a granddaughter of Edgar's A/A VI Ikan Pullmore - the original Pullmore, not the Whopper bred Pullmore.

Here's her mother Ginger, a daughter of Blue Glory:


Here's C.C.'s foundation stud, CH. Blue Max II:


Couturier's GR.CH. Blue Bully:


WD Beelzebub:


WD's Duke:


WD's Murgatrod:


As you can see, these dogs are not (what I at least) would consider bully. All these dogs are in proportion. They have straight, long legs & are well built with no one body part exceeding another. Some may have weighed bit more & had a bit of an AST-ish quality about them, but that is a result of the Ruffian stuff they were crossed into. But I wouldn't consider them "bully." IMO the bully movement started on the west coast w/ Gotti-Greyline & was expounded on by REK.

As for the dogs synno posted all of those dogs appear to be suffering from a genetic disease we have already discussed on this board found in game dogs. It's called chondrodysplasia. Here's a link on it:

Chondrodysplasia in Havanese

The article is about Havanese, but the disease display itself in virtually the same manner in all breeds. Here are two game bred APBT who is affected with the same defect; one an adult, one a pup:

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=231848

 

ABK that last dog you posted reminds me of the Florida Cracker Cur (for the uneducated dog folk, the Cur im talk about is a breed kinda sorta, its a great bay/catch dog)

 

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY ARE BULLDOGS. PERSONALLY, THEY STOPPED BEING APBT'S WHEN THEY STOPPED BREEDING FOR WHAT MAKES A BULLDOG WHICH IS THE INNER TRAITS. I FEEL SAD THAT THIS PEOPLE CALL THEMSELVES "DOGMEN OR DOG BREEDERS" THE APBT IS A WORKING DOG, NOT A 90LB DOG WITH A 29" HEAD AND 4":mad: FROM THE GROUND. THEY ARE PRETTY BUT NOT A BULLDOG:mad: BUT I DO BELIEVE RAZORS EDGE WAS THE PIONEER AND ALL THIS BLOODLINES THEY USE SHOULD BE A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN. IF U LOOK ON THE REG PAPERS, THIS DOGS ARE CONSIDER APBT'S

 

i just dont understand why the even have an extreme class, thats just promotes bad breeding? i myself have a razor/gotti bully, but she a true American bully(amstaff/apbt), the problem is there's too many types of bullys and majority of people think a standard American bully is those short gargoyle looking things witch there not. heres my girl Cali..and shes no hippo..

 

damn good info .. agk i always enjoy reading your post