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GRCH Buck

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by popper, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. popper

    popper CH Dog

    GRCH BUCK ROM

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    As a pup Buck was sold by Pat Patrick to a physician. He proved to be an unsatisfactory pet and was sold to the late Alan Waldman who matched and won two with Buck in the low 50's. One over Aldo's Zeke, who later became a Champion, and the other over Winchester's Conan. STP purchased Buck from Alan Waldman when Buck just turned 2 years old and campaigned him at his correct weight, 46 lbs. As soon as STP started to work Buck they saw he had incredible stamina. In STP's hands, Buck demolished all of his competition, which included some highly regarded match dogs. Buck did not dazzle fanciers with ten-minute wins, but he had virtually no weakness as a match dog and always dominated his opponent, no matter what style.
    Buck's first match with STP was into Tito's Tonka, which was no match for Buck as Tonka stopped in less than :30 minutes. His next was against Captain America's Jumbo Jim. Jumbo Jim was a double bred Gr. Ch. Hank dog, and was hand picked to defeat Buck. Jumbo made an incredible scratch at 1:30, but by 1:57 he collapsed in his corner unable to go.

    In Buck's 5th he went into Rodney's two time winner JR. JR was handled at :52 minutes and could not go any further. Jr. later went on to win three more. His 6th match was against P. & H.'s Rocky, a rough son of Ch. Jeep and Gr. Ch. Miss Rage. Rocky was picked up in a little over an hour. Rocky went on to win his championship after another loss to Super Gnat's Gr. Ch. Ace.

    At this point Buck was retired as a 6 time winner and not yet 4 years old. I was conditioning Super Gnat's Gr.Ch. Ace for his 4th match when I received a call from S.T.P. He explained that his Gr.Ch. Buck was contracted into Ricky Jones and Gr.Ch. Sandman, at 48 lbs. Both dogs were exceptionally seasoned match dogs with similar styles and S.T.P. predicted that the match would be a long one. S.T.P. wanted me to provide the veterinary care after the match. I was honored that S.T.P. would trust my veterinary skills and I told him how to get to my house on his trip south to meet Rebel Kennels Gr.Ch. Sandman.

    Rebel Kennels Gr.Ch. Sandman was bred and raised by Ricky Jones from a Rascal/Jeep and Boomerang cross. Word had it that Ricky was able to take some of the unwanted dogs from some very good dogmen, and by sheer determination and good sense Ricky had bred bulldogs that could compete and win over the best in the country. Some of the best match dogs, at any weight, were either owned by Rebel Kennels, or were matched into Rebel Kennels.

    My friend Peter from Holland wanted to learn more about conditioning so he stayed at Rebel Kennels conditioning match dogs. Peter owned St. B.'s Dylan and was already a noted conditioner prior to his trip to Ricky's place.

    Two of the most dominant kennels using two of the foremost bloodlines were matched into each other. While Boomerang/Jeep/Rascal blood was dominating southern matches, blood through Boyles' Dirty Mary was just starting to establish itself in the south.

    S.T.P.'s mini van pulled up in my driveway. He had been on the road for over seven hours and intended to make the remaining three-hour drive without resting. Buck was standing up in his sky kennel and had been doing that for the entire trip. Buck was let out of his kennel to empty out and rake up a bunch of leaves and dirt. He looked good with good muscle tone. As always, I asked about Buck's conditioning program. S.T.P. told me that Buck was worked on two different treadmills. One day he would work the free turning mill and the next day he would run a hard turning mill. By the peak day, (One week prior to the match), Buck had run for two hours at a good pace, on the easy turning treadmill. S.T.P. went over the plan we would follow when we arrived at the match site. Buck would have emptied out prior to arriving at the site and would stay in his sky kennel until the last possible moment, because he would go wild once he saw the pit.

    We drove down and got a motel room where we could return after the match. Everyone was a little nervous about the match because Buck was going into a great dog owned by a good dogman.

    We drove to the site and found out that Ricky and Sandman had been staying in the area for the past five days. Most of the dogmen favored Sandman and made no secret of their preference. Buck weighed in right on the weight and we were told that Sandman was also right on weight, but when Sandman was put on the scale he was 1 1/4 lbs. over the weight. S.T.P. played this situation perfectly, saying that he would take the forfeit and go home. Ricky started talking trash, saying that S.T.P. was scared and so on. Finally, Ricky said that he would give them odds in the betting. S.T.P. never intended to take the forfeit but he convinced Ricky that he was going to take the forfeit and go. After taking considerable verbal abuse, S.T.P. came back to the van grinning like a Cheshire cat. He had gotten everything he had wanted in the betting. The betting on both sides was brisk, fanciers from all over the world were betting on their favorite. Ricky was ready to cover huge side bets, which by far exceeded the original bet.

    There were about 25 fanciers waiting for the match to start. My friend Peter from Holland was betting on Sandman, while I was betting on Buck. This was the first time we were not on the same side of the betting. The dogs were released and Sandman shot over like a rocket and got a good hold. When Sandman got to the stifle, Buck slowly and deliberately got him out. Ricky got all excited and said that Bucks stifle was broken. For the first 20 minutes Sandman was all over Buck, but then Buck started to dominate the action. Buck was a little stronger and had a little heavier. He was taking the match to Sandman, but neither could get much of a lead over the other.

    Ricky's wife was holding their baby and was quite verbal as she yelled for Sandman to whip Buck. It was a credit to the spectators that none of them asked Ricky's wife to quit her monotonous and repetitive yelling for Sandman. The yelling went on for hours as the two Grand Champions battled on into the night.

    Both dogs could hardly be held in their corner as they rocketed across on their scratches. About an hour and a half into the match Sandman got a good hold on Buck's neck. As Buck tried to twist out of this hold, Sandman held on and a stalemate ensued. Sandman would not release his hold and Buck could not get free, so the two Grand Champions were locked motionless and time dragged on. It seemed that both dogs were asleep. Buck started to vocalize his frustration at being unable to move. Ricky became even more excited, interpreting the noise as a sign of Buck wanting to quit. Nothing could be further from the truth as Buck finally extricated from the hold and resumed his dominance over Sandman. Ricky not only began to denigrate Buck but also S.T.P. At one point he said that he was going to kick Buck's ribs in because he was such a cur. I encouraged him to go ahead and do it since the foul would leave Buck the winner. I think that Ricky began to realize that Buck was going to beat his Sandman dog and this was his way of dealing with that possibility. No matter how many times and how many ways Ricky verbally abused Buck and S.T.P. he never let it bother him. S.T.P. stayed with his dog and ignored all the outside shenanigans. S.T.P. gave fanciers a good demonstration of coolness and decisiveness in a tough situation.

    At the end Sandman began to falter and it was clear that Buck was going to win. At three hours and 17 minutes, Sandman didn't scratch. Buck's courtesy scratch was a running one and he slammed into Sandman. We hustled Buck into a nearby shed and I started an intravenous line. Buck received 10 cc's of Azium in about 800 mls of Ringers before he ripped the line out of his leg. In an adjacent shed, Ricky worked in an effort to save Sandman. I was told that he gave Sandman an injection of Epinephrine, which is often used by human rescue personnel. The shot of "Epi" as it is known to the members of the rescue squad, killed Sandman immediately. Buck would not be still so I stopped the IV, which had leaked into the surrounding tissue.

    The level of euphoria was high as we drove back to the motel. We were all singing a 50's song playing on the radio. Even S.T.P., who is normally a reserved person, sang loudly as we drove through the night.

    We stayed at the motel that night, but I couldn't get a catheter sealed in Buck's veins. It wasn't until the next day that I did get a catheter in Buck's front leg and he continued to receive IV fluids. Buck also got a shot of Lasix to help him urinate all the fluid we were giving him.

    Buck stayed at my house for two weeks after the match, recovering from his ordeal. At 5:00 AM every morning, Buck would start his scream/howl, which echoed throughout the house. When I walked him outside, Buck would try to lunge at the other dogs in my yard, even though he could hardly stand up. It was obvious that his spirit had not been broken in spite of the lengthy battle with Sandman.

    I returned Buck to S.T.P. and the old warrior lived the good life, breeding bitches and eating good food until he died.
     
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  2. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    One of the all-time greats! Loved this post, where is a 'thank you' button when u need one?
     
  3. Wood23

    Wood23 Big Dog

    Great posts they dont get much better than Buck
     
  4. Rampage

    Rampage Big Dog

    Never get tired of reading about Buck
     
  5. Cincere

    Cincere Pup

    Sounds like the guy from Rebel Kennels had no class.
     
  6. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    Lol.is that what you think lol....

    NO CLASS.....= DISRESPECTFULL

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  7. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    it wasn't uncommon to get the journal and see the Rebel had hosted two conventions in the previous two months, some of them 10-12 match shows, started on a friday night and finished on the sunday. He would feature in most of the matches and almost always win, he was hard to beat at home.

    He started with a bunch of average dogs like Luke, Ruby and Turtle and ended up with a bunch of aces like Shady Lady and Samson. The more competition, the standard rises. Its the same in all sports, Ozzie have a great league team because of the NRL. NZ have a good rugby team because of the super 14 and the National Championship.

    Anyway my favourite Rebel dog was Ch.Unc, he was a Loposay bred dog, He was not the greatest he had but he was one of the gamest, a bulldog all the way.
    Oh, it was fair to say that some of those matches he only had a financial stake in the match not the dog, he was a great matchmaker, people would put a weight up and not know who they are going in to. When they'd arrive they'd find Ken and the A Team or the Havana Boys across the box. You can see it in the above list Rebel/Nelson Ch.Yara, Rebel/Havana Boys Ch.Blondie, Rebel/Ken's Ch.Tornado. I don't think he owned those dogs he put the matches together and took some of the odds on it also.

    A guy I knew visited him at Okeechobee and said he had a couple of big black boards right by the phone, the phone was always ringing and he would be writing weights up there and covering them with his own dogs or ringing his buddies and get them hooked up.

    His business interests generated huge amounts of money which financed his dog doings and enabled him to create a niche for himself near the top of the tree. It also drew a lot of attention to himself and inevitably it all came tumbling down.
     
  8. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

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    two great warriors.
     
  9. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    "we got buck from island kennels when he just turned 2 yrs old. he had already won 2 contract matches at several pounds above his proper Pit wieght, one over aldos' zeke who later became a Champion and won over winchesters' conan. he had also won a money roll in over an hour against a 10lb bigger dog which had been reported, but which we disclaimed as a Match after we got the dog.

    as soon as we Started to work the dog we could see he had incredible stamina, and he demonstrated this in all his matches. he was a smooth efficient fighting dog who would bite whatever came near his mouth, usually starting on the head and finishing the dog down in the Chest and throat. he was a great finisher and one of the hardest scratching dogs you'll ever see.

    our first Match with buck was into tito's tonka. tonka turned out not to be much of a dog, and buck bit him down in less then 30 min. bucks next Match was against captain america's jumbo jim. jumbo jim was a double bred GR CH hank dog, and even though this was his first time out he was hand picked to beat buck and had taken out a 60lb Match dog in over an hour in his Game test. jumbo did the early driving with buck doing heavy damage to jumbo's head and mouth.by one hour, buck was in complete control. jumbo made an unbelievable Scratch at 1:30, but at 1:57 he collapsed in his corner unable to go. buck made a very hard Courtesy Scratch and jimbo was lost shortley after.

    buck went for his 5th against rodney's jr dog. jr was a 2xw off of cooper's weasel and a sister to wright's GR CH jubble. jr was regarded as a terrible biter and have finished both of his opponents. at 20 months old he gave up 2lbs and finished the roof top boy's reagan a 2xw in 1:30. in his second Match he finished solo's cobra, a deadgame 1xw winner off of GR CH angus in 52 min. jr was a hard drivind dog who never gave his oppenents a moment's rest and he gave buck all he can Handle for about 40 min. jr did some damage when he got in, but he didn't get in often enough and eventually fought himself off his feet. buck did a lot of damage to jr's head and inside his mouth and tongue. by 40 min jr had done all he could, and buck took over biting hard in the Chest and throat. jr was handled at 52 min but would not go. buck scratched like a rocket. jr was lost the following morning.

    his 6th was against p&h's rocky, a rough young dog from jj off of CH jeep and GR CH miss rage. rocky was another hard driving dog, but buck stayed on the head until 40 min when rocky Started to run out of gas. after that it was all buck and rocky was picked up a little over an hour.

    at this point, buck was retired a 6xw and not yet 4 yrs old. he was bred numerous times and after 2 yrs and siring a lot of pups we decided to go one more time into another grand Champion. a Match was made with a dog from a dog from a CH jeep to CH rascal cross known as GR CH sandman.the sandman Match was the first time two recognized grand champions were matched into each other, and even though both were near 6 yrs old it was a classic battle.

    sandman came in a pound over at 49 with buck on wieght at 48. sandman came hard in the Front for the first 20 min, but then buck came slowly ahead holding the head from 20 min until one hour. sandman caa bad bleeder in buck's nose at 40 and buck lost a top Cutter at one hour. after one hour the Match stayed even with each dog taking turns on top, until 1:45 when the dog locked into each other's mouth. they stayed locked in the mouth until 2:50 with a Handle made with bucks Turn to go. each dog had only made a few scrathes until this time. buck made a hard Scratch at 2:50 and the battle continued. at this point sandman's head and nose was destroyed, and buck was getting weak from the loss of blood which had continued on and off since the 40 min mark. it was still either dog's chance. sandman scratched good at 3 hours but after 3 more each, sandman took the count at 3:17. buck made a good Courtesy Scratch. sandman didn't make it.

    buck is now retired for good. we have seen many highly regarded Pit dogs over the years, but buck had the right combonation of bite, speed, inteligence, stamina, and an incredible will to win that made him one of the all time great Pit dogs."
     
  10. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    STP’S GR CH BUCK V'S ED S’S ROCKY
    M 47lbs Ref. *********

    Buck a red-red nose off of Patrick's Golden Boy and Patrick's Red Lady.Rocky, a buckskin from J.J off of ch Jeep and gr ch Miss Rage. Rocky starts off rough in the front end with Buck on the head. Rocky starts to run a little hot at :20mins. and Buck slowly takes control of the fight working the head and chest. Rocky comes back in flurries but at 1 hr. Buck is on a down dog biting hard in the chest and throat. 2 scratches by each dog when rocky is picked up at 1:07. Rocky makes a game courtesy scratch and Buck makes a hard courtesy scratch.

    Winner.....STP'S GR CH BUCK.
     
  11. NorthernOutlaw

    NorthernOutlaw Big Dog

    He was a low life drug dealer and when it all came tumbling down he sang like a lil bitch! Anyone who runs their mouth like that shows ZERO sportmanship and no class! STP was one of the most respected crews in the game and IS what Sportsmanship and class is all about. I'm sure this is why they were so successful and finished with an untarnished career and the big mouth drug dealer went out with shame and embarresment! Karma is a bitch and it will always come back to get ya in the end!
     
  12. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    i think alot us know what happened in the end, i for one am fully aware, but at the same time i have respect for those who were once doing it. you still can't take away those achievements. i would never disrespect someone who is no longer in this life.
    i also have a great deal of respect for stp and their many achievements.
     
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  13. CrazyHorse

    CrazyHorse Big Dog

    Make no MISTAKE when the Rebel was active NO ONE had a better wiining %. Check the Journals it's all there and he took people's culls and WON! Check the '86 Journal and he had a 1/10th of all Gr Champions. Also check his ads in the mid '80's where he had 4 Champion ROm dogs @ stud and Gr Ch Sandman on the ads! The rebel's house burnt down in Ft Pierce on a Friday and he matched three dogs Saturday, the next day! Also the Rebel never had more than 20 dogs on his yard and in the mid 80's once had a dozen champs on his yard at one time!
     
  14. Jrouble

    Jrouble Big Dog

    There's a difference between a good man who does bad things, and a bad man who does good things.
     
  15. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    lol..you have your opinion, i have mine.
    i don't get into peoples personal problems, however it is noted;)
    too many people pass judgement when they have never been there them selves. maybe some think certain people need the shit brought out about them. but my focus is on what was achieved in there better times.
    everyone has good and bad, unfortunately some do choose the wrong paths, but what sort of place would it be if thats all we remembered people by.
    if ya can't get ya head around it then i think there is something wrong. alot of good honest dogs came through that way and because of that there are some good ones now. just keep that in mind next time you just want to hate on someone. look at the records and think of the dogs.
     
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  16. CrazyHorse

    CrazyHorse Big Dog

    The Rebel dominated his era and his program was on the verge of really taking off when he started breeding Ch Homer. The Rebel put the Jeep/Rascal cross on the map. His wife was one of the best conditioners and aftercare specialists I have ever seen. His accomplishments should never be tarnished, have an asterick or discounted.

    If you knew the Rebel like I did you knew he wasn't built for doing time. He got in over his head in his other financial venture(drugs) and SNITCHED on several dogmen and one will NEVER see the light of day because of him. Yeah he turned out to be a RAT but that is seperate from the dogs.
     
  17. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    yeh, C H, it seems we are on the same page;) it is a dam shame things went the way they did and a real shame others had to/have to pay the price for it. i don't think i have to explain myself any longer. i just don't like people being disrespectful of others, especially when its a matter of record:)
     
  18. homer39

    homer39 Banned

    looking at that list rebel kennels sure had an easy run maybe to easy
     
  19. Jrouble

    Jrouble Big Dog

    Haha I didn't mean it to sound like you musta taken it, I share the same opinion as you, whole heartedly - was just an idea for some people to think about.

    The guy mighta had his problems, but he did some AMAZING things as a dogman - gotta give credit where credit is due imo, thats what sparked the previous statement - just wanted to save any confusion :)
     
  20. outrightmike

    outrightmike CH Dog

    good post!!!!!!!!!!
     

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