manbiter = cur??

I have to admit your right because my Zebo is a man biter and he is still here although the man is gone.....

 

If a effing dog of any breed BULLDOG or not House dog or the greatest hogg dog yet, went AFTER mine or anyone esles KID its getting dead blame shot, I can not believe that a MOD is perpetuating the image that a normal Pit Dog can eat babies and its ok... That's effed up...

Man aggressive bitter = mentally unstable dog

True real deal Game Dog = The perfect mentally balanced dog

 

I also hope that if it did not get put down that someone stomped the the Fear of the Almighty God into the damn dog so that it will NEVER act that way again....

 

i agree bobby.....the dogs were bred or should have been bred for dog/animal agression....any dog that had a go at anything to with a person.....without good reason....like defending an attack from another on its owner or family.....should be in the ground by at least 6ft....its these type of dogs and bad handling of them that gets the rest of bull breed owners the trouble that we have now....

 

Bobby rooster read my post again

 

aye but alabama gorilla says he doesnt correct that attitude cos a gamedog should think its the top boyo......ffs.....:eek: ....never heard such shite concerning a wanton attack on a person....no correction...pffffft....:mad::rolleyes:

 

Hate to disagree with you peppa but one of the top dogmen i learnt from had the exact same attitude...remember these guys dont have them in the house and they in a 'yard' environment 24/7....the guy wouldnt even clip the dogs nails himself incase he nipped one of their quicks.im not sayin its the right way or wrong way but worked for him (you know who im talking about)

Also i can understand that way of thinking,again im not saying i agree with it just i understand it..the idea is the dog will know NO master,no one above him....period...keep them as 'king on top of the hill' as possible

 

Hate to disagree with you peppa but one of the top dogmen i learnt from had the exact same attitude...remember these guys dont have them in the house and they in a 'yard' environment 24/7....the guy wouldnt even clip the dogs nails himself incase he nipped one of their quicks.im not sayin its the right way or wrong way but worked for him (you know who im talking about)

Also i can understand that way of thinking,again im not saying i agree with it just i understand it..the idea is the dog will know NO master,no one above him....period...keep them as 'king on top of the hill' as possible

 

why did he do that alabama ?...incase one turned on him if he cut them too close ?...cheers

 

we all know about their gameness but i think people are forgetting about apbts loyalty and will to please. I understand people not wanting their dog to fear other people but i dont know who would want a crazed man biter who can never be trusted. And the breed now more than ever doesnt need that.

 

No reids skipper not incase one turned on him and bit him,he didnt want that dog to associate him with hurting him.oxman might be able to explain all this a bit better than me he sat through a fair few more 'school' sessions than me lol

 

thanks alabama ...ive never heard that before ....the bloke must have knew his dogs inside out ......i thought it was because he ended up with gypsy etc and i for one wouldn't have cut her nails

 

Who said they wanted a crazed manbiter that could never be trusted??:confused:

 

For ME (and only me) I want my dogs to KNOW I am the alpha, and every human is a higher rank than he, IMO his mental balance would be out of wack if he thought any different, I show them love and kindness but also direction and correction...

Bull Terriers should not be uncontrollable, nor should we be in fear of how they will act in ANY situation, be it walking up to a child or out in the woods hunting...

But what do I know, I am a no body, not even close to a 'dogman', I feed a few bull terriers, and that's it, but my dogs know what not to do from a very early age they know how to act, and if they don't then they get PTS, pure and simple... Those are MY dogs MY property its and how I do things,,, I have high standards for my pet staffs....

 

Come again? What is AR?

You shouldn't have to teach a bulldog who and who not to bite. The dog should be genetically sound. DA, yes...but certainly not HA, especially not now, with the breed being under a microscope.


I understand, maybe, from an oldtimer's viewpoint. But, things have changed drastically since way back when.

 

ok.........

Also, if your big bearded hairy uncle came onto your property, you should have a Dobie or GSD to keep that away....or my chihuahua..LOL

 

You dont know anything about me, no1 does and there is a reason. I haven't done anything that would make me standout. I dont sell curs, i dont even breed. I own dogs, and i am learning. Part of the forums is listening to people that have been thre but the other part is the discussion aspect. People dont have to get so upset when someone feels differently about something than they do. I respect others points and i know different people do things differently. Who is to say who is really right or wrong. I personally dont think a dog should see itself as king of the hill or dominate over its owner. I want my dog to do what i say when i say it. I want to be confident that my dog will listen and not be worried about what they are gonna do. I dont like my dogs to see all humans as their superiors. I dont like dogs that allow strangers to pet them when im not around, im sure we all know that dogs thieves will get you quick. I do know that a dog that is in charge does what it wants, when it wants, and if it wants to bite someone then it will. And thats more bad press and more pitbull bans. I do understand ur thinkin as far a building the dogs confidence... at least that what i assume your reasoning is. If you took my post as disrespect just know i didnt mean it that way.

 

A man-biter certainly isn't preferred in today's society with all the bad press and sue-happy people just looking for a lawsuit ..not to mention hard to handle in a [] but it certainly doesn't mean a dog is automatically a quiter. That would be unprovable logic, especially when there have been several CH and GRCH that would take a bite out of your ass. I know of one that is GRCH ROM and many on this board know of the dog I speak of too. Winning was the only thing that mattered way back when...(historically speaking, of course)

 

I have a question after reading this thread. When you say Human aggressive dogs, what exactly are the actions of the dogs that would cause you to say it is HA and put it to sleep? For me, first and foremost they will never be allowed to show any kind of aggression toward me, my family, or close friends. I had a male that never showed aggression toward me or my family but to strangers he lunged and tried bite them so I put him to sleep because that is where I draw the line. My dogs now are weary of strangers at times but they don’t lunge at them. They may give a growl at times and bark if there in the yard, but they have never tried to bite anyone. My male will growl sometimes but still allow people to pet him at the same time. I don’t like them to be totally friendly with strangers. If someone comes up and asks to pet them I say sure, just give them a second to smell you first. My male still sometimes growls but at the same time he is waging his tail and wants to be petted. I don’t like that he growls because sometimes it scares people but to me that is not HA and does not mean they should take a dirt nap. I just want to see the different degrees people vary on what they consider HA. Thanks.

 

I like the dogs very human friendly. I would be gutted at the time if i was beaten up and was one of the dogs and it done nothing. That said ill forgive it as these dogs wasnt bred to show any HA. Im confident my house dog will protect IF i was attacked. Other than that hell do nothing but lick you to death. I would cull any dog that shows aggression even to strangers unless it had been encouraged, which i would never do.

Your dog thats not so sure of strangers gets of your yard and then attacks someone doesnt do the breed no favours. This day and age HA pitbulls is the last thing thats needed. Id try and get your dog more behaved with strangers unless its been encouraged and then i say the dogs just doing the job its been taught.