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performanceknls is a dog trainer right?

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Marty, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. Nell_Bell

    Nell_Bell Big Dog

    Marty,
    PK knows her ish when it comes to dog training, of that anyone here can be assured of. I would love to own any dog that she has worked with, and would love to learn some of her techniques. She has the type of knowledge that comes by doing the years of hard work involved to really understand dog behavior and the individual breeds; not something one learns by just reading dog training books about it or copying someone else's training techniques.
     
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  2. performanceknls

    performanceknls Top Dog

    I have seen that occasionally where for what ever reason the dog really does not like one person.
    A couple things could be going on
    The first thought is every person give off different smells, hormones, pheromones, every one has a different chemical make up and smell. Now that changes when we experience something like anger or fear. That is one way dogs read us, so when someone says My dog knew that when he ate the couch he was wrong, he ran when I found it. Well no shit, everything about your chemical smell changed when you went into anger, the dogs read that as clear as you changing colors. He doesn't care about the couch, your pissed and the dog is out of there! lol
    So with that said I have seen some dogs react weird to someone because for what ever reason their chemical smell does not sit right with the dog. Nothing the person did just the dog is not comfortable with that person.

    The other is body language
    A good example is a dog could flip out of someone that has a deformity that makes them walk or move different than a normal person. That can be unnerving for a dog. A perfect example of this is my grandfather. The nicest man in the world and ALL my dogs love him so much. But I have one dog who lived in a chain his whole life and did not get out much before I got him. He had not seen anyone who moved like my grandfather. my grandfather walks hunched over because of his back.
    I was at his house and my dog flipped the f*ck out! this made me really nervous with my new dog so I did a full temperament test later on. He really is a great dog and has never gone after anyone else but my grandpa. It really can be one thing like that, that can make the dog uneasy. Now he wouldn't try to kill him or anything he just gets very defensive. To this day if my grandpa comes over of course I put my dog in a create but if he sees my grandpa he will growl. My grandpa felt bad and wants to make friends with him but no way would I risk that. It is better to just put him up.

    Another possibility is your friend (please do not take offense just give possibilities) may not be the most upstanding guy in the world. Some dogs can really tell when a person is no good. They really have a sense of judgment about people.

    Another possibility is a person of her past could remind her of your friend and she had a bad experience with them. Not that dogs sit there are think , oh he looks like that ass who kicked me! lol but they will associate something negative that happened to them to an individual. I had a dog who was hit by a big guy before I got her and now when she sees big burly men she gets nervous. This is a result of that negative association.

    Basically my advise is if it really only is one person no matter the reason and the dog really has a good temperament then put her up when he come over and that is that. I think correcting her for it is good but if she really does not get over it then why stress her and you, put her up. Again if everything else about her temperament is good , this is one battle I may not make her confront.
     
  3. Buck E. Owens

    Buck E. Owens Banned


    I know i did!:p
     
  4. crazycooter

    crazycooter Top Dog

    with my job when we call to get a script transfered they will say they don't transfer to mexico. and i'm in arizona
     
  5. Ricky1969

    Ricky1969 Big Dog

    let a stranger get close to her and be close to a crate and when she acts up don`t say nothing just put her into the crate or carring dog crate let the person walk away for a while and bring her out and walk the person close to her again and when shes acts up dont say nothing put her in the crate do this alot or everday and your problem will be solved .
     
  6. Ricky1969

    Ricky1969 Big Dog

    just show her buy doing and not saying she will learn fast
     
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  7. rattler

    rattler Pup

    thanks 2 all really good info my buddy had a dog that was on a chain and wouldnt let any one in hes area but his owner well i walked with no hesition in to his area and petted him my buddy cuoldnt belive it sumtimes its just the mind frame or smell u have at the time j m o :)o ya the dogs name was killer
     
  8. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    the thing about the smells got me thinking. our friend is a fireman. i know animals naturally don't like fire and smoke. he doesn't smell like smoke to me when he comes over, but the dog has a better sense of smell than i do. he's the only fireman friend we have that comes over on a regular basis. i wonder if that smell is what's setting her off. she's really good around everyone else. it's like a jekyll hyde thing when he comes over. i suppose it's for the best for all involved if they just don't have to fool w/ each other. i don't think there's a soap in the world strong enough to make him stop smelling like he just got out of a fire. if the smell of fire is what's making her crazy there's not a whole lot i think we could do about that. i sure wouldn't want her to stop being cautious about fire. thanks for the advice.
     
  9. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    both mine are mainly house dogs and one is friendly to all people and the other is getting better. She used to NOT aloow strangers in the house car or yard. in public they were fian as long as they didnt try to pet her. now she is cool as long as i am there. if i dont mind you she'll ignore you, but once i leave you better leave as well lol. she is just really protective

     
  10. performanceknls

    performanceknls Top Dog

    I adopted a dog to a police officer and he had a foot pursuit then came home and the adrenaline was still a strong smell and the dog I adopted to them freaked out on him. I put her down and many reasons behind it but it was interesting to say the least.
    When police dogs track people who run from the cops they are not taking a particular human smell most of what the track is the smell of adrenaline and human skin cells. When you are scared or excited you have a ton of sent coming off you.
    k9 smell is very interesting, they can even smell cancer!
     
  11. brindle

    brindle Big Dog

    <style></style>Good posts!

    Yes it could very well be the smell of smoke on him that sets her off.

    My old bitch was teased by a friend of mine when she was about a yr old, he blew cigarette smoke in her face and she hated that. She never forgot it and would growl anytime she saw him. She was fine with everyone else. I would put her up when he came over as he was often drunk and would still want to tease her. Nope, not in my house! He only came over about once a yr so I just put her in the bedroom when he was there.

    Some dogs are much more sensitive to smoke and other odd smells than others. If it is just this man she has a problem with, I'd just keep them apart.
     
  12. arjanito

    arjanito Pup

    Bring her over to Thailand(me)and she'll be listening by the 20 minute mark and then all of us are gonna have a great time together!Anytime!
     
  13. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    eve was the same with my grandma. she didn tliek new people to touch her but when she got used to them then she was fine. i lived with my grams and it took her like a whole year to let my grandma touch her. when she was a puppy, and we are touchin about like 2 or 3 months she would growl and flipped out when my grams came around her. so i think she had to adjust bc my grams health problems made her limp and walk hunched over

     
  14. Just a note on this - in the vast majority of dog training principles it is specifically noted to never use the crate as punishment.

    The crate is supposed to be a dog's safe space, they should want to go there when they feel threatened, overwhelmed, sick, tired, or have just plain had enough. It is important to keep all associations with the crate positive.

    You'll notice a simple google search with the words "using dog crate for punishment" brings up tons of evidence and studies by trainers to back this theory.

    Your personal mileage may vary, but its is a widely accepted thought that the crate should not be incorporated into other training as a "time out" or punishment place.
     

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