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Assault Weapons Ban

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by deepsouth, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. pennsooner

    pennsooner CH Dog

    Here is my question, as I've seen some interesting retoric on this thread. Does anyone here believe that a private citizen should be able to own ANY weapon system? Flamethrowers? Surface to air missile systems? Handheld anti-tank weapons?

    I'd argue that MOST (95%at least) rational people would argue that there should be some legal limits on the ownership of weapons. So, having established that, what should those limits be?

    And I'll start off with, people SHOULD be allowed to own some firearms, so I'll say the limit should be at full auto with large clips. I know, guns don't kill people, but full auto with large clips sure do make it a hell of a lot easier.
     
  2. Marty

    Marty Guest

    I own my grandmothers 22 cal hand gun and if you think you can take it? try and see what happens :rolleyes:

    I don't need a gun to take care of me, I can take care of myself ;)
     
  3. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    Why should there be restrictions regarding automatic weapons,they're rarely ever used in a crime.Probaly more nickle plated Jennings .22s being held sideways robbed more 7-11s than machineguns ever did.And if there was ever a gun no one should own that's it :D I don't think people should own nuclear warheads[chance of accident]but any hand held rifle,just shooting regular bullets should be ok.There's enough full auto weapons that you'd be suprised but who's being killed with them.This guy just a few miles down the road from me had them coming out his butt www.joplinglobe.com/local/local_story_051010739.html -He never killed no one though.If someone has common sense they can own any kind of firearm and do no harm.If they're stupid,they might kill someone with any kind of firearm.
     
  4. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    But,since the real deal costs out the butt,I see no harm in owning a semi auto with a 30 round magazine.
     
  5. WWII

    WWII Banned

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    Arms is a short term for armament. Armament is the standard issue weaponry for the military.

    I take this to mean whatever standard issue weapons foot soldiers are equipped with in war, is also what we private citizens should be allowed.
     
  6. pennsooner

    pennsooner CH Dog

    I asked a very clear question. So I have at least ONE straightforward answer to the question.

    And hand held full auto rifle is fine by at least one person.

    How About grenade launchers? Or rocket propelled grenades?

    Or what I think would be the ultimate in home protection, the automatic shotgun? What about hand held surface to air missiles? How about hand held anti tank weapons?
     
  7. The Teflon Don

    The Teflon Don Big Dog

    Yes there should be some restrictions, and the restrictions that have been in place for many years are fine by me. Full auto firearms have been heavily regulated for decades, yet for some reason we still have gang bangers running around emptying 30 rounds into each other out of their full auto Mac 10. Ya know why? CRIMINALS HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE LAW.

    So on that note, what kind of an effect would an assault weapons ban have on crime?

    Question to the supporters of the ban...

    Is one of these firearms more dangerous than the other? I can tell you, as the owner of these guns, they are nearly identical in their ability to perform a specific task...yet our government would have you believe one is more dangerous than the other. I can tell you point blank...that is not the case:

    So...Which one is more dangerous?
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  8. TripleJ

    TripleJ CH Dog

    YES!!! if the have all the proper permits than YES! you see what every on does not under stand the joe blow can NOT have full auto anything. They must have a class 3 lic. and full auto guns are very pricey ak starts at about 7,500.00$ . And if yu are class 3 you must have all those guns locked in a spec Safe and keep perfect records on them. Also if you are class 3 the gov can kick in your door any time they want and check to make sure all is in order. If one thing is out of place your ass goes to jail. thats what no one seems to get you can not go in a gun shop and buy a full auto gun. But the media makes it seem like you can pick one up at wallmart. I feel that if you have gone threw the hoops and are in the law YES you should be able to have a friggin tank if you want one.
     
  9. WWII

    WWII Banned

    This gun was ok to buy and use under the Federal AWB:
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    This gun was NOT ok, as it was deemed an "assault" rifle:
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    The catch: They are the exact same gun. One just happens to have the "evil" furniture on it and the other is stock. This is how ridiculous the AWB was and would be.
     
  10. The Teflon Don

    The Teflon Don Big Dog

    Can I play?!?!?!?! :D

    LEGAL
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    ILLEGAL
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    Again....same gun....a .22 caliber rifle.
     
  11. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    I agree if someone wants to jump through the hoops it takes,it shouldn't have restrictions.It is outlandish to have to pay what it takes to get one though.As far as the gangbangers and their Mac 10s,The government should deal with them with their automatic weapons.The national guard and the military should roll down the street and wipe them out.I'm for the freedom to own the firearm of your choice and for a severe penalty for misusing it.
     
  12. TripleJ

    TripleJ CH Dog

  13. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    for shame folks...losing ANY right is plain and simple...LOSING RIGHTS! we all sit on here and gripe about the government telling us what kinda dog we can own, but its ok for them to tell us what kinda firearm we can own...shame on everyone who thanked that B.S. post. PULL YOUR HEADS OUTTA YOUR ASSES! WITHOUT THE 2nd AMMENDMENT, THE 1st AMMENDMENT ISNT WORTH THE PAPER ITS WROTE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    Exactly right,just the way I feel about the 2nd admendment. WITHOUT THE 2nd AMMENDMENT, THE 1st AMMENDMENT ISNT WORTH THE PAPER ITS WROTE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    you dont wanna get me on this subject....2nd ammendment tattoo on my forearm...my DAUGHTERS been shootin since they were 5. (9 and almost 13 now)
     
  16. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    ask australia, united kingdom, and canada what a ban has done for their crime rate? home invasion is a HUGE problem. its a proven fact...when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns..... i have had a CCW permit for years, and take full advantage of it. working on the road, a fella feels alot better w/ a Glock in his suitcase:)
     
  17. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Please tell me this was in jest. :o
     
  18. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    i agreed about the criminal part w/ the mac10s, but i PERSONLY think we ALL should have a Thompson and a BAR! jmo, but i doubt im wrong! BTW, mac 10s are JUNK! nothing but a criminals firearm...wanna nice SMG, buy a Thompson, MP5, or an Uzi. i dont care what anyone says, the israelis know how to make a firearm. id LOVE a Galil!
     
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  19. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    Yeah,if people would just look at Australia,England and Canada they'd see how effective gun control is.It just controls law abiding citizens from owning firearms,while criminals have them.Even if there was a way to get every gun out of the hands of every person,somebody would be attacking people with sharpened sticks and rocks.Here's three quotes from Jeff Cooper that I think is relative to the subject of gun control. “One cannot legislate the maniacs off the street... these maniacs can only be shut down by an armed citizenry. Indeed bad things can happen in nations where the citizenry is armed, but not as bad as those which seem to be threatening our disarmed citizenry in this country at this time.” “Remember the first rule of gunfighting... ‘have a gun.’" and “One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that ‘violence begets violence.’ I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure—and in some cases I have—that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy.”
     
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  20. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    coopers corner was the best part of G&A
     

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