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Irish Jerry's Weehunt

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by gh32, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    What's the general opinion on this dog and his desendants.I was considering adding some of that blood to my yard and was just wondering.Besides I couldn't find as much info on Weehunt as I wanted.
     
  2. Marty

    Marty Guest

    Where can you get some of this blood?
     
  3. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    Well,not 100 percent weehunt,but he does show up 8 times in 5 generations on the pedigree.It's something I've always wanted to get and that's as much as I've found on any dog I've ever had a chance to buy.A guy I'm acquainted with in Arkansas has her.If I can scrape the money[always a big if]I'd love to get her.
     
  4. Marty

    Marty Guest

    Good luck :)
     
  5. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    It don't seem like I hardly ever find the Weehunt dog in very many peds.I never had any experience with this bloodline before and was wondering about it.Right now I have a couple Hammonds dogs and one little Weird Jack bred female.And was just looking to get another good dog.
     
  6. Marty

    Marty Guest

  7. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    I didn't realize he only lived to be 3 and a half.He done alot in a pretty short time.
     
  8. SMOKIN HEMI

    SMOKIN HEMI CH Dog

    Hey all check this out!!! Nice read...



    Crenshaw's Ch Honeybunch ROM
    The story of CHAMPION HONEYBUNCH is written as all fighting dog stories,
    and that is by the dog themselves. What can be added to the
    accomplishments HONEYBUNCH has made as a winner, a champion and a
    producer. HONEYBUNCH today is regarded as the most influential factor in
    the history of dog fighting, her amazing ability to produce has proclaimed
    her the very top producer of all times. It is with great pleasure that I recall
    some of the events of her life in this exclusive story for the American
    Gamedog Times.
    I purchased HONEYBUNCH from Maurice Carver in 1972 as a five month old
    pup. She was very active as Maurice had told me, I placed her on the chain
    and watched as she developed into one of the best looking bitches I have
    ever owned. HONEYBUNCH was a looker, super active on the chain and
    when rarely caught standing, stood like a great show horse with her legs
    spread wide apart. HONEYBUNCH was a great looking bitch, but was every
    bit as good as she looked. Over the years I have had many people and many
    fanciers to ask questions in regard to HONEYBUNCH'S record, ability, style
    and general behavior. I will try to answer some of those questions in this
    story.
    THE PIG PICKIN: Some matches were held in the Carolinas in the mid
    seventies. There was a pig pickin (this is a cliche for BBG) before the
    matches were to take place. This show was significant because both the
    great CHAMPION RASCAL and CHAMPION HONEYBUNCH were cofiscated as
    a result of a bust after the fights were held. The complete story of the
    rescue of these two great a not be told at this time, but both HONEYBUNCH
    ad RASCAL were saved from the wrath of the authorities and were returned
    to the friendly pitbull dog environment. The complete story of the rescue
    has been told ad will be documented later.
    RECORD: CHAMPION HONEYBUNCH was matched three times, winning all
    three! She was conditioned and handled by me in all three of her fights. I
    have read some advertisements saying she was a five time winner in some
    old magazines, these ads are sometimes confused with a dogs actual record.
    ABILITY: Many great dogs have been criticized for their ability for one
    reason or another. No dogman that ever saw CHAMPION HONEYBUNCH in
    action can say that she cut any slack to any of her opponents. In all her
    matches she took charge from the word PIT and dominated her opponents.
    No dog could or would scratch back into her after fourty minutes.
    HONEYBUNCH was what we call in the game a main player. Like Tyson in the
    boxing world, you may not win them all, but the opponent had better come
    to play. One person who can testify to HONEYBUNCH'S biting power is Rex
    B. Rex was the judge for HONEYBUNCH'S second match and was accidently
    bitten by her while unfanging her. Rex was working with a breaking stick
    when HONEYBUNCH clamped onto his thumb. When it appeared to me that
    the dogs were free I quickly turned HONEYBUNCH from her opponent when
    Rex said, "Jerry, she still got my thumb". It had been quite a struggle to
    seperate these two fast mouth bitches and I didn't realize HONEYBUNCH
    was still clamped tight to Rex's thumb. The Old Man on the Mountain​
    replaced Rex as a referee and the match resumed. Rex who is the kind of
     
  9. SMOKIN HEMI

    SMOKIN HEMI CH Dog

    man who would not yell out in protest or make a big scene, but for the next
    few days he realized why the Hispanics call the thumb, "Fat Finger".
    A LESSON LEARNED: A vauable lesson was taught to me by HONEYBUNCH
    when she was still a young gyp. A well renowned dog man of the area came
    to my place to roll a female when HONEYBUNCH was 18 months of age. I
    was eager to show off my latest Carver aquisition so I took HONEYBUNCH
    off the chain and faced her up with the experienced brindle bitch. The
    brindle crossed, took hold of HONEYBUNCH and started to shake,
    HONEYBUNCH just rolled her big dark brown eyes at me to say, what's
    going on. The brindle's handler yelled, "I'd shoot that bitch, she won't even
    fight". I was to proud of my bitch to resort to anything like that, after all
    she came from the "Old Master" and I placed her back on her chain and
    decided to wait until another day to show her off.
    PRODUCTION: HONEYBUNCH was blessed with the amazing ability to
    bestow upon her offsprings her own ability to preform as well as produce.
    HONEYBUNCH was easy to breed, produce large litters of puppies ad raised
    most of them. This trait coupled with the uncanny ability to reproduce her
    likeness, has proclaimed her the greatest producer of all times. Her mating
    career was started after the poor showing verses the brindle female
    previously mentioned. The choices of studs to be bred to her would also play
    a large roll in her rapid advance to stardom. The excellent selection of
    CHAMPION BO, CHAMPION RASCAL and CHAMPION OTIS by James
    Crenshaw coupled with some older brothers and sisters off of TRIM MOODY
    and OSO NEGRO from my place caused a pyramid effect and spread the
    HONEYBUNCH fame around the world. I bred HONEYBUNCH to TRIM MOODY
    when she came into heat the second time. TRIM had a very impressive win
    in 56 minutes before the mating. During the match TRIM suffered damage
    to his private parts, but came from the bottom to win. I had tested TRIM
    MOODY before this match ad determined that he was dead game. This
    mating produced only three surviving males ad all three males became
    match dogs they were GRAND CHAMPION WEEHUNT, JOKER and BULLY
    BOB. After HONEYBUNCH weaned this litter I tried her again and really liked
    what I saw. She was as rough as any female I had ever witness. Her test
    was her first match and she proved her worth by taking out a very good
    opponent and scratched so hard that if her foe did not meet her half way,
    they would be knocked back to the corner wall. I contacted Dr. Kimsey
    Wood in an effort to try breed my suped-up little match bitch to OSO
    NEGRO, I asked if he would agree to a pick. It suited the Doc "OK" and I
    was just as pleased as OSO NEGRO was building a reputation by kicking bull
    dog asses around the circuit, at the time. We stuck these two together and
    produced a litter of nine pups, but only two males. When the picking time
    came, the doctor said, "Jerry, I sure would hate to take one of those pretty
    males, I would just as soon take two females". I sent do home with two
    bitches that produced several match dogs as well as reputable producers.
    FACT: HONEYBUNCH returned to the four squares to win two more
    impressive battles. The second of these was the Pig Pickin match famous for
    the big bust. The opponent in this match was conditioned and handled by
    Scotty Todd, he was using a good little black female at a weight of 38 1/2​
    lbs. This was a little heavy for our heroine, but I felt that I would spot a
     
  10. SMOKIN HEMI

    SMOKIN HEMI CH Dog

    pound or so. I was right, she cut this one down in twenty-eight minutes.
    One of the pleasures of owning CHAMPION HONEYBUNCH was the superior
    feeling obtained from watching her work. She was always the same in all
    her matches, rolling, controlling and always dominating her victim. By the
    mid-seventies I decided to sell off some of my stock, but didn't want to put
    HONEYBUNCH on the open market. James Crenshaw had a deep interest in
    the Carver family as I did, he was very dedicated and a known eye for a
    good one. HONEYBUNCH'S fighting days were over, but she was in the prime
    of her producing life. James and I reached an agreement of sale and both of
    us reaped the harvest of the fruits of his great vine even up to today.
    TRUTH: The world of THE AMERICAN GAMEDOG was upgraded by the life of
    CHAMPION HONEYBUNCH. The dog fraterity will continue to improve as a
    result of her exsistence. The augments in regard to her offspring will
    continue for years to come.
    QUESTIONS: The question has been asked many times which of
    HONEYBUNCH'S litters was the best? Which of her offspring was the best?
    These questions will still be asked after all of us are long gone. Crenshaw
    and I agree on the complexing of this question, even after seeing the results
    of each litter. My view is, how do you or where do you find a litter that can
    compare to the records of champions JEEP, CHARLIE and HOLLY? Eleven
    wins and no losses were recorded by the trio. HONEYBUNCH'S first litter
    however in which all three males were matched, won ten and lost only two.
    The accomplishments of GRAND CHAMPION SNAKE can not be ignored
    either in the search for the best, OTIS also produced others of recogition, in
    this litter. When it comes down to the big question of which offspring was
    best? It really puts you in a bind. Crenshaw and I agree CHAMPION
    CHARLIE was a better athlete than JEEP, but that the JEEP dynasty is now in
    a full bloom with the prime status and the unprecedented 15 point ROM
    ranking and is sure to go higher. GRAND CHAMPION WEEHUNT can not be
    overlooked either. Although he was ot an impressive, barn storming type of
    dog. he always gave me his best and won six consecative matches verses
    the competition of the time. His first win was at Crenshaw's place when
    matched into a five time winner called TIGER. TIGER was a veteran of six
    matches at the time. The Florida boys told me that TIGER had been matched
    when he was 18 months old and was picked up after making a good
    showing against the older and possibly better dog. TIGER returned to win
    five and met WEEHUNT for his seventh time out. WEEHUNT took a pretty
    good beating and came from the bottom to win in one hour and twenty eight
    minutes. I was once accused of picking a soft spot for WEEHUNT when I
    agreed to match into a one time winner in the Volunteer state, instead of a
    two time winner in the Low Lands. Well as fate would have it, WEEHUNT
    defeated the one time winner, the two time winner from the Low Lands lost
    to another two time winner. WEEHUNT then went on to beat the winner of
    that match when he went for his fourth triumph. I once won two matches in
    three weeks when I substituted WEEHUNT for another male I had matched
    at 38 1/2 lbs. I matched WEEHUNT at 37 lbs just three weeks earlier. He got
    lucky and ran DD from Florida's entrant out of the square in 5 minutes.
    WEEHUNT record was six and zero, but to say he was the best in the
    company of CHAMPION HOLLY, CHAMPION JEEP or GRAND CHAMPION
    SNAKE is a dilemna that defies a simple solution. CHAMPION HOLLY ranks

    among the best bitches i have ever seen and in my mind may be
     
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  11. SMOKIN HEMI

    SMOKIN HEMI CH Dog

    HONEYBUNCH'S best offspring. HONEYBUNCH also produced litters from
    OSO NEGRO, RASCAL and TRIM MOODY. Yielding brood stock that in turn
    produced the famous MOUNTAIN MAN'S CHAMPION HOMER strain,
    SNAKEMAN'S GRAND CHAMPION PEDRO, FLIM FLAM, CHAMPION BUBBA,
    CHAMPION SANDMAN (SANDMAN was also a grandson of JEEP as well as
    RASCAL JR.) and many more. Everytime you open your Sporting Dog Journal
    there is a new champion with our star HONEYBUNCH in the third, fourth or
    now fifth generation and another notch or two added to JEEP'S ROM status.
    CONTROVERSY: Yes, even the greatest of the great must also be subjected
    to the possibility of someone who may enter a bogus name onto a pedigree.
    the last question I will try to answer in this story and the bottom line of the
    is: "OK Maurice, If HONEYBUNCH really was sired by a Spanish Pointer,
    could you please send me one more just like her!" After one of
    HONEYBUNCH'S impressive wins I called Maurice to brag of her win. I told
    Maurice, "She sure can bite" he replied, "Well God Dam sonnnn, she's got a
    license too."
    ACKNOWLEDGMENT: The fame of HONEYBUNCH would not be as vivid had it
    not been for the many contributions of severl breeders including Crenshaw
    and myself. The others that were key breeders of this family have been
    James Garrett, Gene Smith, George Wilcox, M. Stover, E. Reece along with a
    host of others who believed in this line and has helped in the advance of this
    famous strain of dogs. Last but most, The San Antonio Rose as Don Mayfield
    called him, The Immortal Maurice Carver.
    FUTURE: It has been said that HONEYBUNCH could produce match dogs
    from a German Shepard and I can't deny or confirm that. I will say, "I quess
    there will never be another one like her". We will continue to breed and
    somewhere in the back of our minds we will hope to find one who will fill
    her collar.
    In closing, I want to relate to you something that happened the other day
    as I was recently visiting a local Wal-Mart. I overheard a conversation
    between two young men, one of them was a apparently a Pitbull owner and
    the other youngster a friend of an owner. The conversation went something
    like this: "Your friend got good dogs man?" Reply: "Yeah man, he has got
    some real rollin stones". Owner: "He got any Dibo blood, Blood?" Reply:
    "Yeah man, I don't know if I heard of that one or not." Owner: "How about
    HONEYBUNCH?" Reply: "Yeah man, I've heard of that one." I nodded to
    them as I pushed my shopping cart loaded with Ole Roy by them as my
    mind went to remembering the great CHAMPION HONEYBUNCH R.O.M.
    This article was written by Irish Jerry in the American Gamedog Times.
    Another Story on Honeybunch:​
    My Honeybunch Story
     
  12. Marty

    Marty Guest

    Buck died in a kennel accident on Irish Jerry's yard with his Gr. Ch. Weehunt dog. Both dogs were lost.

    Brian... that was wrote by Jerry :)
     
  13. SMOKIN HEMI

    SMOKIN HEMI CH Dog



    Man I would love to sit down one day with an old timer and hear some old stories of dogs from back in the day...[​IMG]
     
  14. Marty

    Marty Guest

    Well I edited my post about feeding Ch Weehunt, I may be wrong about that, I have fed so many great dogs on his yard its hard to keep up with all of them... I can tell you this though he had a dog named repeat(sp) get off the chain and kill 4 Ch dogs in one day... Ch Amber was one of them can't remember the other three.

    Ch Ambers ped... http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=15884

    With over 100 dogs it hard to check all the hardware :(
     
  15. promoe

    promoe Top Dog

    I have a few that are based off of Weehunt with a j/rb out and some with rb/j that are getting up there in age..I was curious about SuBoy if there is anything out there worth a shit. Most of that stock were lost in a hurricane as far as i know...
     
  16. nfahred

    nfahred Big Dog

  17. Indyred

    Indyred Pup

    Nice breeding.
     

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