Lesson learned? Midlifeloki and other members listen up!!

Excellent analogy!

 

[QUOTEI hope that the poster can cull these new ones if they need too.
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I know that some of you on here know a bit more that I do with regard to this breed, but why would these dogs need to get culled unless they are HA?
If the same thing happens with these 2 new dogs, then the poster needs to get culled.

 

I know that some of you on here know a bit more that I do with regard to this breed, but why would these dogs need to get culled unless they are HA?[/QUOTE]




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Some dont make good pets or owners and why try to pass the buck off to someone else.....after all, that's how they got those dogs to begin with.

 

All I can say is yes it was horrible, yes they should have been supervised and yes she should have waited till the conditions and education was right . Having said that, I agree with DryCreek that it has happened and nothing can be done about the past. I only hope that she will take advantage of all the advice and info that she can find here and do what's right by the two new dogs she now has. And by the way, they are good looking dogs. Please, please take all the possitive and negative input and use it well.

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OK Dry Creek, where's my points?

 

Which is why it's so important that we educate her.

We cannot change the fact that she has these 2 new dogs, what we CAN do is do our darnedest to make sure there is NO repeat of the previous incident.

I hear where your coming from my friend, it's frustrating to say the least. Believe you me, I'm not pleased with the issue myself. But we're shutting the proverbial barn doors after the cows are gone here. All these points have been made, it's time to move on.

Now, here is the link to the chain set up of Marty's.

http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14426&highlight=chain%2Faxle

Edit to add....points given chinasmom, ya beat me by a minute LOL

 

This is from my other forum. the first story is the one you already know about. Keep reading the other stories:

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=2779

and other one on the proper use of a break stick:

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=1513

 

DryCreek: your point is taken I hope this poster comes back and reads the information on this forum.

 

Good info on those links!

 

i am CERTAIN that is going to happen!

Tx for keeping this thread so civil~ water under the bridge...

 

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=24052&c=3&userid=2714
drive this in the hard dirt ground about 6 inches from the big end


http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=24051&c=3&userid=2714
connect this to it with swivels about 10' for each dog

put dog with 2 inch collar on end of chain with a bull snap or other connecter with more swivels.

No more problems.

 

Also make sure to get a QUALITY 2 inch collar...not one from a petshop! I had a little 30lb female literaly rip through a 2 inch leather collar from petco. I don't have collars from Shane yet (about to order a couple from him hopefully today), but everybody says wonderful things about his equipment (stillwaterkennels.com)

 

hmmm wonder what will happen if this new pregnant bitch starts having problems when whelping her pups :rolleyes: she might shoot them.

 

An I suppose that you would have a problem with that.....culling that is. I could hope for nothing more if they were all culled. you see I dont have much faith in the pet population.

For Obvious examples....

If you just wanna be shitie, that's ok. ive been there and done that myself.
However this could be your dogs every time you sell or place with in the public.

Close the circles folks this breed is not for everyone!

 

Actually I got my 2 incher I use now from 14rock, but your right, when I say 2 inch collar I assume quality but make sure, I have seen some cheap ones.

 

hell no. i have no problem with culling.

 

A very good post !

 

I'm gonna chime in here. Good advice, I was just getting ready to post something similar, LOL. Also, make sure the collar that you use DOES NOT have plastic buckles.

Rule #1 - If you can buy the chain, collar, or tie-out from the pet section at Walmart, plan on another accident.

I also wonder, how far into the ground did you plant your privacy fence? This could help as much as concrete. Just bury the fence about 2 ft, and lay concrete in the dug area. It is also very important to make sure your chain and axle set ups are not long enough that your dogs can jump the fence and hang themselves. Just as important is to have the set ups far enough apart that the dogs cannot reach each other. Put into consideration that the dogs can stretch their arms out, so make about 4ft foot distance apart when the setups are fully extended.

You need to do this IMMEDIATELY, because owning three APBTs is just an accident waiting to happen, especially if they are unaltered and that female goes into heat. I noticed that you just got two adults, how is your other one liking it? Is it just a pup or full grown? Don't fool yourself, there will be another fight even if you keep the dogs contained so get a breakstick and plan on keeping the two same sex dogs separated. Don't ask why, just heed my warning.

 

31. Leave the drama from other forums at the other forums where it belongs. Posting links to educational material is acceptable.

 

Mister, I may be misreading your first post but it seems to contradict itself. Here take a look:

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But you also said:

Now, you likely consider yourself better educated and experienced in these dogs than Midlifeloki. Yet, you admit to having had multiple "accidents".

I am not pointing this out to confront you but rather in hopes of making you and others realize that to err is human. The way i see it, she posted her incident in however many forums as a therapy tool. From what was provided in the original thread, she took full responsibility from first sentence to her last one. That to me is necessary and conductive to learning.

That fact is that no cyber or book learning will fully prepare anyone as much and as quick as hands-on experience. It was horrible and pointless how things ended for the two previous dogs. She made a decision on her property. I will not circumvent her right by critiquing decisions on property.

I find a simple answer to this. She thought the yard was secured. Like when yard accidents occur. They occur because the owner thought the chain setups (or collars) were safe. Sh!t happens.

Boogieman, remember that in the most basic sense, dogs are property. Any responsible property owner will provide a reasonable degree of care. If mistakes will ultimately create an above average property owner, then, it is alright to make mistakes.

She might not have believed in that these dogs enjoy the fight. I bet you she does now. No amount of Peta or Humaniac advertisement will persuade her into re-thinking "it is how you raise them". This is valuable in my eyes.

How about these 2 new dogs? Well, more than likely, these dogs were destined to the pound aka death row. Therefore, if she can provide them with some love, it is alright. Better with her than directly into the gas chamber. I hope that this nasty experience will motivate her into properly securing dogs and yard. In addition, i hope she can view chain setups as an acceptable means to confinement.

Yes sir, i believe if she is of average intelligence, these mistakes will unlikely be repeated. Of course, things and life with dogs are complex so mistakes will occur. Best anyone can do is do their best. Some people may think that just letting multiple dogs loose in the yard is idiotic in itself. You and others may feel it is fine since "they get along" but others know that life-long buddies can turn foes in a nano second.

Midlifeloki, have you corrected some of the things Boogieman has pointed out? Have you bonded with the new dogs? It is very important you bond with them. You may still be shaken and traumatized by your previous experience. If you are going to continue owning these dogs, you need to be able to break up a fight if it occurs. You need to create a protocol in case of such emergencies. Do not worry, these dogs have loose skin that minimizes short-term injury to muscle tissue and bones.

I bet you all that a majority of the old-time dogmen made terminal mistakes in their beginnings. Why be more critical of a newbie who neither has a dogman's passion nor level of breed understanding?

Just remember that hindsight view has 20/20 vision and that it is easy to connect the dots after the fact.

 

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rocky's Human again.