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they must be extinct

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by olered, Oct 6, 2007.

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  1. olered

    olered Banned

    well being as according to some pitbulls are for game purposes. and amstaffs are for other purposes that must mean there is no true pitbulls anymore, being the game is now illegal. so people saying i'm breeding amstaffs, well we all must be. and some say ambulldogs were originally brought over from europe from bullbaiting then why are they called the american bulldog?? and the american pitbull terrier was originally bred in america hence the name american pitbull terrier. so why is an american bulldog hence american.
    http://www.workingpitbull.com/history.htm check that link.
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    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hunting boar in the colonies. Primarily used as an animal which could pin and control large and dangerous beasts such as boar, bear and bull, dogfighting was never the original purpose of the bulldog. Dog fighters will argue this point, but the evidence is quite clear. The animals pictured here could enter the ring and win as representatives of the American pit bull today. [/font]
     
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  2. Searcy Jeff

    Searcy Jeff Top Dog

    1. Do some more history on the "Bulldog" breeds and you will understand why the AmBull is called American Bulldog.

    2. There are plenty of "true" "pitbulls" around even though the game is not legal. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think it was actually ever legal to begin with. And please refer our dogs as APBTs.

    3. You might be breeding AmStaffs. Just because its post-1976, doesn't mean everyone's dogs are Amstaffs.

    4. So what must be extinct?
     
  3. lockjaw

    lockjaw CH Dog

    are you really that ignorant look at the picture..if you can get five apbt's to chase down a hog together...aw never mind .do your self a favor and dont speak..atleast rocks are quiet..
     
  4. texas_dogger

    texas_dogger Big Dog

    olered you are a idiot, and parasite to this website, its people, and the APBT.
     
  5. Michele

    Michele Guest

    Lockjaw and Texas Dogger: You guys made me spit out my water...:D
     
  6. EDOGZ818

    EDOGZ818 Big Dog

    I have to admit, I know nothing about hog hunting, bull baiting etc., and very little about breding.;) My guess would be in order to use 5 dogs on a hog, they would have to know each other quite well. I have seen people walk 3 dogs at one time and said to my self "AMsTaffs". I can barely walk my male & female together. (I haven't tried in years.) I wouldn't even consider walking 3 of my dogs together. The walk would be over before the leashes would be put on. I would think, the dogs would turn on each other, if used on a hog / bull. Now the "PACK", mentality may be different, and they may work together, against the stranger. IE: HOG,BULL
    Are more than two APBT's used for hogging in today's sport?
     
  7. jr Pit Guy

    jr Pit Guy Big Dog

    Not me, for the same reason you stated. I'd probably be breaking them apart as soon as I got the second dog out of the dog box. I could almost see a male and a female, if they knew each other, but that's still taking a risk I don't want to take, especially if I paid to hunt on the land.

    Here's my theory: A well bred APBT is going to do what he was bred to do. NO training, socializing, etc. is going to correct what his blood tells him, and his blood don't tell him to work alongside 2,3,4, or 5 other APBTs to catch a hog.

    Here's my story that explains my theory: I had two dogs that were raised together from pups. They even slept next to each other until they were about four months old, when I started putting them in separate kennels. I never let them get together without my supervision, but I always walked them together and they used to play tug of war, wrestle with each other, all of the good stuff. One day when they were about 10 months old, they were wrestling as usual and one of the dogs suddenly turned on. It was an ugly experience, especially for the one who thought it was just a game. My point is, I took them to obedience classes, and raised these two like they were littermates thinking I could overcome DA. I was wrong.

    If anyone has seriously accomplished hog hunting with two gamebred APBTs, I would love to see a write-up on how to overcome DA, and how to train the 2 or more dogs to work together. No BS either, just people who have actually done it. Thanks.
     
  8. chinasmom

    chinasmom CH Dog

    I don't know of any APBT's that have done it, but Dogo's are very good hunting as a pack.
     
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